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Fic Repost: Consilience (+Meta & Illustrations)

As some of you may be aware, I was one of the Mystery Schmoop Week writers for [livejournal.com profile] undermistletoe. Very few people figured out that the story was by me, and a few even thought it was by [livejournal.com profile] astolat, two things that make me really happy, though for different reasons. (Actually, I’m pleased that people thought the story was by any of the authors [livejournal.com profile] svmadelyn grouped me with--in fact, just seeing my name listed with those authors made me giddy with glee.) Unfortunately, my parents came before I got to participate in the guessing of the other stories, which means that I can go back and read them now that the authors have been revealed and go, “Oh, yeah. I would have totally guessed that. Obviously. No question” for each and every one. *eg*

BUT...I’m still interested and amused by why people did or did not guess that my story was by me. So, I’m reposting it here 1) with a couple of pictures, because they are cool and I am a dork, and 2) with some notes at the end regarding the things that I thought (for the most part, incorrectly) were going to give me away. And I’d love hear about people’s thought processes when it came to guessing--not just about my story, but any of them. I think it was [livejournal.com profile] rageprufrock who recently said that writers really just want to talk about their writing ALL THE TIME; this is true, but uh, I hope it is at least somewhat interesting for everybody else, and that you’ll grant me this one last bit of holiday indulgence.

~The Fic~

Title: Consilience
Rating: NC-17
Pairing: McKay/Sheppard
Length: ~3000 words
Summary: Sometimes Rodney’s brain scares him.
Thanks to: [livejournal.com profile] svmadelyn, beta and challenge organizer extraordinaire!

Consilience

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Skull of Phineas P. Gage.


Sometimes Rodney’s brain scares him. Not his mind: his brain—three pounds of grey and white tissue, roughly the size of a grapefruit and with the approximate consistency of a bowl of custard. He doesn’t like that the organ that controls his heart lungs stomach eyes hands mind should be so easily comparable to something you eat out of a plastic cup with a spoon. Basically, if he’d never seen Hannibal, he’d be a whole lot happier.

Rodney’s not an idiot—far from! So he knows the basics of how the human brain operates. Neurons fire and dendrites reach out and synapses snap; the signal never stops. His heart beats and his lungs contract to the rhythm of pons, medulla, cerebellum. He marvels and the amygdala marvels with him; he hurts and the thalamus feels his pain; he lusts and the hypothalamus rises to the task. His cerebral cortex is a wonder in any galaxy, brilliant and bursting and alive. His hippocampus helps him to remember.

But it’s all so fragile. So impermanent. He thinks of his brain, sitting nearly-naked and vulnerable at the top of his neck, and it’s all too easy to imagine something—any one of so many things!—going horribly, horribly wrong. He could receive a blow to the head, ingest the wrong combination of drugs, have his supply of oxygen cut off for too long, too long. And then what? A coma, or memory loss, or impairment of thought. That would be the worst. To know the heights he had once attained, but to spend the rest of his life stuck on the ground. He can’t think of anything more terrifying than that.

Well. Almost nothing.

John pushes himself up on his elbow, studying Rodney’s face in the half-light. His brow creases. “You’re doing it again,” he says.

“Doing what?”

“Thinking.”

Rodney forces out a haughty laugh. “Oh, how inconsiderate of me. I’m sorry if my performing a basic brain function disturbs you.”

“Only when you do it so loud,” John says, good-naturedly. Then he says, “Hey”—concerned, because something of what Rodney is feeling must have shown on his face. Something of what Rodney is feeling always shows on his face. “All right,” John says. “Let’s just get this...out there. You’re worried about...the amount of bacteria in your drinking water? The possibility of a giant alien bird getting sucked into one of the puddlejumper’s thrusters? The imminent explosion of Yellowstone National Park?”

Rodney shakes his head. “Phineas P. Gage,” he says.

“That was going to be my next guess.”

Rodney sighs and rolls over so that he and John are facing each other. They used to lie like this, in sleeping bags, on alien planets. John’s a bit of an insomniac, and Rodney’s a heavy sleeper except for when he’s not, so sometimes they would lie awake and whisper to each other, and to Rodney it was like suddenly and unexpectedly finding the best friend he had always secretly wished for, twenty-five years too late.

Only it turned out not to be too late, after all.

“Phineas P. Gage,” Rodney says. “He was a railway worker in Vermont in the mid-nineteenth century. There was an accident and he got an iron bar blasted through his skull.”

“Let me get this straight,” John says. He reaches out and rests a hand on Rodney’s bare arm, reassuring himself that Rodney is solid if not sane. “It’s the middle of the night. We’re in our locked bedroom, several galaxies away from any trains or train paraphernalia, and you’re worried about getting killed by a flying railway spike? Do I have to take away your Buffy DVDs again?”

“Those are Radek’s,” Rodney says quickly. Then he says, “He didn’t die.”

“No, he came back as a ghost and we were all very relieved.”

Rodney would hit John with his pillow, but then John would stop rubbing his shoulder like that. And that would be sad. So instead he says, “Phineas P. Gage”—slowly, carefully enunciating both words and the initial. “He didn’t die.”

“What, the guy with the spike through his head? He didn’t die?”

“No.”

John looks appropriately disturbed. Still, he tries to put a positive spin on it: “Well, that’s good news, right? Proof of medical miracles?”

“Proof that medicine is hardly a science!” Rodney retorts, proving that, among other things, John is certainly good at distracting him. But not quite good enough. “He lived, but he changed.”

“Superpowers?” John says hopefully. “Telekinesis? ESP?”

Rodney remembers how much he enjoyed telling a group of his grade three classmates that no, if a radioactive spider bit them, they would not gain web-slinging abilities and Spidey-sense—really, they would most likely die. He does not feel the same twisted joy now, not even close.

He shakes his head. “His prefrontal lobe was damaged. He became self-destructive, sullen, a habitual liar.” Rodney swallows. “He lost the ability to interact with people.”

“Rodney.” John’s hand moves up, traces the line of his chin. “You don’t have the ability to interact with people now.”

He’s smiling as he says it. There’s a small flurry of activity in Rodney’s hippocampus, and he remembers how, in the beginning, he would have completely misinterpreted that look, seen only the surface, the shallow spread of lips, and missed everything, the world of things, going on beneath. But he knows what to look for now. They stare at each other for what ought to be an inordinate amount of time and Rodney’s amygdala pounds, pulsates, throbs.

John says, “Eadweard Muybridge.”

Rodney blinks. Staring at John’s lips, “The photographer?”

A gentle nod. “He was in a stagecoach accident when he was a young man. He got thrown from the carriage, struck his head, fell into a coma.”

John’s hand drifts downward as he speaks; moves, very slowly and without any particular purpose, up and down Rodney’s side. They’re pretty strange, Rodney thinks, that this is what they talk about, together in bed, like they’re friends and not lovers, like nothing’s changed since they were just two teammates in side-by-side sleeping bags, restless dreamers under an alien sky.

Rodney finds he’s really, extremely okay with that.

Besides, he knows the next line. “And when he woke up...”

“And when he woke up,” John says, “he was different. No longer an average, run-of-the-mill landscape photographer, he saw the world in a way that no one else ever has. He was a man before his time. A genius.”

The word coaxes a different smile out of John, one Rodney likes to think few people get to see. One he’s almost naïve enough to claim for his own. And Rodney wants to smile with him. But his cerebral cortex is still tick tick ticking away. “Didn’t he murder his wife’s lover? Yes, I’m almost positive—”

“He was acquitted!” John says, his fingers ceasing their restless crawl. “Also, you’re missing my point!”

“You had one?”

“Rodney.” John’s head drops to his shoulder and Rodney can feel the heat of his breath, steady puffs of barely contained laughter. Rodney’s chest feels tight; his hindbrain must be falling down on the job.

“Rodney,” John says again; says it like he’s lost all other words and he’s returning to the one thing he still knows. Then an eyeblink and it’s gone, too. Gone; and they’re left with what silent reassurances John’s mouth can offer. With what John’s lips can give to Rodney’s mouth, his jaw, his jugular; to the hot patch of flesh above his beating heart.

Rodney’s brain scares him. Sometimes his heart scares him even more. Pear-shaped, the size of a fist, atria and ventricles divided by a single separating septum. Mitral and tricuspid valves pumping blood, contracting the cardiac muscle seventy to eighty times a minute. Faster in fear and more slowly in sleep, from birth until death, it’s a true constant in an ever-changing world. And it’s not what he’s talking about.

“John,” he says, and rolls him onto his back. Their foreheads bump, and Rodney can feel the brain cells evaporating, exploding into dust and air. His heart is beating, faster and faster and faster.

He wants to say: It’s all so fragile. He wants to say: I can’t bear to lose... He wants to say: It’s all in your hands, I’m in your hands, please be careful, be careful—

He says, “What do you think he saw?”

There’s a flash of something in John’s eyes. Surprise, maybe. “Muybridge?”

“Yes.”

John stares up at him. His head is dark against the pillow; so are his eyes. But his smile... “Consilience.”

And John scares Rodney, too. Mostly at times like these, when John is smiling at him, is warm beneath him, is connecting with him body and mind. Times when as hard as Rodney works to block it out, all he can hear is his mother’s voice: “If something looks too good to be true, it probably is.”

Rodney doesn’t know how much of this he’s letting John see: probably a lot; probably too much. He hopes his sheer pleasure and continual astonishment at the complexities of John’s mind have escaped the muddle. Because he has to say: “That doesn’t exist.”

John’s hand has moved up to hover near Rodney’s face, and Rodney thinks he can feel the pulse of John’s electromagnetic field. The fingers linger just beside the sharp jut of Rodney’s jaw, like John’s holding himself back, afraid to touch, right up until the moment when skin scrapes against skin, and he remembers that he can.

“Maybe not yet,” John says. “But someday.”

And Rodney has to shake his head. “It can’t ever exist. Literature, music, art—they can’t ever be fully united, fully integrated with science. Not hard science, anyway,” by which he of course means real science. “They’re too different. Apples and oranges.”

John thinks about this for a minute, a highly entertaining minute in which he pulls Rodney down, joins their mouths, merging lips and teeth and tongues. Then smugly, “Apples and oranges are both fruit,” he says.

And Rodney should be annoyed. Smug people (who aren’t justified in their smugness; who aren’t, in other words, him) are inherently annoying, and John should be no different. But John... It’s as if the signposts that Rodney had laid out for himself, the markers by which he had mapped his whole life, have been ripped out, or rearranged, or translated into Ancient. He’s lost and he can’t find his way and it should be fucking terrifying. But he feels safe here. Safe: and he thinks that’s what scares him most of all.

Rodney’s parents had been remarkably overprotective for people who otherwise couldn’t give a shit; maybe it was because Jeannie had been sick a lot as a baby, but one of Rodney’s earliest memories is of having an Oreo slapped out of his hand because it had fallen on the floor, because it had germs on it, germs, Rodney, and germs were very very bad. Germs made you sick. But despite the white white walls and the shiny-polished tables and the countertops that reeked of Lysol; despite the permanent repeal of the ten-second rule and his mother washing and rewashing his hands with anti-bacterial soap; despite everything, Rodney got sick. Got sick a lot more often and a lot more seriously than Jeannie ever had. Got sick and resigned himself to a dozen stupid allergies and a really shitty immune system. It’s not paranoia if they’re really after you; Rodney thinks a similar exception should be made for hypochondria.

So Rodney no longer believes that clean and neat and orderly equal safe; the more protected something looks, he’s learned, the more vulnerable it often is. Entropy, chaos theory—the more you know, the more you realize that you know nothing; can predict nothing; can prevent nothing.

Rodney’s a heavy sleeper, except for when he’s not.

He says, “I’m allergic to citrus. An orange could kill me.”

“Okay,” John raises an eyebrow, “I think we’ve started talking about something else.”

Rodney swallows. “Let’s not talk anymore. I want to—” He scoots down John’s body, clutching at his hips. John’s dick is already half-hard, warmed and made ready by the press of bodies. Rodney strokes it, and if it weren’t for the intense look in his eyes, his touch would almost seem lazy, over-familiar. “Will you let me?”

John chuckles. “Like I’d say no.”

Rodney takes John in. Stretches his lips and slides down the length of John’s cock, big mouth good for something. He’s no porn star, though: he can’t deep throat; can’t, however much he may want to swallow John whole. To keep him inside, somewhere safe.

But that’s not how it works. That’s not how it works, and as willing as Rodney is to give John a long lazy blow job, he can tell that John is restless. He can feel John’s fingers roving across his scalp, wanting to touch, to give as well as receive, and so he lifts his head, releases him long enough to say, “You can do me, too, if you like.”

John’s eyes are heavy-lidded and dark; “Oh, I like very much,” he says.

There’s an awkward rearranging of position—comical, really, and Rodney’s never really been a big fan of sexual acts that take this much coordination or pre-planning. But it can be worth it; oh, it can be so worth it, once limbs are all aligned and John’s cock is in his mouth again, and John’s mouth is on his cock, and they’re moving together, a complete unit, a living breathing pleasure machine—yes, it’s worth the clumsiness and the embarrassment and the risk. It’s worth it to feel the pull of John’s lips and tongue and be able to echo it with the suction of his own mouth, motion crashing into motion like waves moving around in a circle. Like a completed circuit, hot with continuous charge.

And the synapses. Connect.

Rodney almost does something ridiculous, like jerk back. But just then John shudders, like he felt it too, shudders and spills into Rodney mouth, and even more miraculously, drags Rodney with him. But that release is nothing compared to the one that came before, and Rodney’s brain feels divorced from his body as he washes off John’s cock, catching the last of his come as if it were something essential or precious. He can feel John doing something similar, stroking along Rodney’s thigh before rolling his shoulders straight. Rodney, however, stays curled on his side with his head against the sharp jut of John’s hip; he can look down John’s body and see his toes, pale and delicate, not yet uncurled.

His legs are bent uncomfortably against the headboard, his eyes level with John’s softening cock. He nuzzles against John’s hairy thigh, thinking: it’s almost kind of perfect, that he should do it backwards like this, that they should do it like this, coming at it from another angle, and an odd one at that. They discuss 19th Century brain injuries in bed; and likewise, when Rodney first says, “I love you,” he says it upside-down, whispering the words to John’s thigh instead of his face.

“What did you say?” John says, poking Rodney in the knee. “Get up here, you big goof.”

“You’re a goof,” Rodney returns automatically, rolling over, scrambling up, an embarrassment of arms and legs and hands. He holds himself up despite quivering forearms, releasing a breath and staring at the fine lines on John’s forehead, etchings of knowledge and memory, of worry and fear and loss.

“And I’m in love with you,” he says. “I’m—”

The words choke him, then; overwhelm him, what little courage he possessed vanishing in a shocked exhalation of breath. But John is there to catch him, clutching at his shoulders and neck, mumbling, “God, Rodney; Rodney, Rodney, oh God, God...”

“I love you, too,” John says, arms braced but trembling, weak. “Fuck. I love you.”

And this is a noise he doesn’t ever remember making: something between a laugh and a sob, but wonderful, glorious, full of relief and joy. They close the remaining space between them, kissing wet and sloppy, kissing as clumsily as their first kiss was targeted and precise. This, Rodney thinks, somewhere at the very back of his unquiet brain, all this: you and me, this bed: everything I know.

They pull apart, grinning. John’s eyes are hooded, but bright with a certain sated look he gets sometimes, like the indulgent blinking of a lazy cat. “That was awful,” he says through an irrepressible curve of lips. “We just shamed a couple of fifteen-year-olds making out in somebody’s rumpus room.”

Rodney feigns a sigh, quickened by the gradual loosening in his chest. “You wanna try again?” he says.

“Sure,” says John. “A little more practice won’t hurt.” And this time the kiss is soft and careful, and just imperfect enough that Rodney knows it’s real.

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Single gayest image from an Eadweard Muybridge Human Locomotion photo sequence.


—END—

A/N: Heavy debt owed to the book Consilience by Edward O. Wilson. I also cribbed most of the info on the human brain from him, so if it’s wrong, 1) he’s very convincing with his erroneous information; 2) I misinterpreted it because I’m dumb; or 3) Rodney dozed off during grade 10 biology—soft sciences, sheesh, who needs ‘em?

~The Meta~

-->First, the things I thought were going to give me away:

•The line: He doesn’t like that the organ that controls his heart lungs stomach eyes hands mind should be so easily comparable to something you eat out of a plastic cup with a spoon. I’m kind of in love with listing things--very often body parts--like that, without helpful commas or ands; I know I’ve done it in other fics, although I can’t think which ones right now. Apparently this is less of a distinct/annoying stylistic whatsit than I thought. (Does that mean I’m allowed to keep using it?)

“Phineas P. Gage,” Rodney says. “He was a railway worker in Vermont...” I know some people know that I lived in Vermont for 11 years. What? It could have been a clue!

•This run of jokes:

“...You’re worried about getting killed by a flying railway spike? Do I have to take away your Buffy DVDs again?”

“Those are Radek’s,” Rodney says quickly. Then he says, “He didn’t die.”

“No, he came back as a ghost and we were all very relieved.”


The extended, somewhat incongruous use of pop culture for humor just seems...very me to me? (Probably because such humor makes up a good 90% of my novel.) And [livejournal.com profile] nakedwesley actually did get it because of this, so hey! Points!

•Eadweard Muybridge. In general. He’s in my interests list, and I have a tendency to talk about him a lot, as I have a tendency to talk about a lot of my obsessions a lot. (Although [livejournal.com profile] wychwood, I don’t actually remember talking about him to you. I remember the Wilson conversation, though. *facepalm*)

•This construction: He wants to say: It’s all so fragile. I know I’ve used that before, especially in The U.S.S. Indianapolis, where I also talked about characters “knowing their lines.” I guess it’s not that uncommon, though.

•THIS construction: Rodney’s a heavy sleeper, except for when he’s not. I say things like this ALL THE TIME. I know “I’m a fast writer, except for when I’m not” appeared in my journal recently, for example. But then this may be something that shows up more in personal entries and less in stories, so...

•The last line: And this time the kiss is soft and careful, and just imperfect enough that Rodney knows it’s real. Another thing I have a bit of an obsession with is the realness of things. Fellow writers: if you’ve ever received a comment from me on any of your fic along the lines of “that was so real to me,” then that’s me trying, inarticulately, to give you a very big compliment: it means I believed in it, that it resonated down deep. It means that I felt it and didn’t just think it, and that's an idea I know I’ll return to again and again.

•The author’s note. I actually tried specifically to make it sound less like one of my usual author’s notes (stealth formatting! Whee!) but I still said something along the lines of “If this is wrong, I’m dumb,” which is exactly what I said in the notes to Something Wicked. *fails at spyhattery*

-->Things that actually gave me away:

Um, looking more closely, besides the aforementioned Spike reference that clued in [livejournal.com profile] nakedwesley and the fact that [livejournal.com profile] wychwood has a scary good memory for my more obscure interests, nobody actually listed any reasons why they thought it was me. Other than “gut feeling”--if anyone wants to take a stab at explicating that more thoroughly, I’d love to hear it. If not, I’ll just chalk it up to fannish hivemind. *g*

-->Other stuff:

•Several people said that they DIDN’T think it was me because I usually write more sparely, which is interesting because I’ve been told that my style is spare or sparse before, and I always react the same way: *is flattered* *is confused* Basically, my writing never feels sparse to me--possibly because I’m the one who’s going through and cutting out (not enough of) my own adverbs, but still. Curiosity: piqued.

[livejournal.com profile] ladyagnew decided not to guess me, but she said: “the characterization is suspicious[ly like mine]. The way John is written particularly.” Personally, I think I tend to write John one of two ways: dark, Down From Mt. Olympus!John, or sweet, dorky!John. This is obviously closer to the latter, but what I’m curious about is, what--to [livejournal.com profile] ladyagnew or anyone else--is typical of my characterization of our boy Shep?

•Three things that didn’t make people know the story was written by me, but made them pretty sure it wasn’t written by other people, especially [livejournal.com profile] astolat: 1) the use of the present tense, 2) the swearing, 3) the sex.

1) I love the present tense. (And so should you--especially [livejournal.com profile] smittywing! *eg*) Not for every story, but a lot of the time: oh yeah. I love the immediacy of it, and I just like how it sounds--a lot of writing is about rhythm to me, and the present tense can be especially...liquid. I wish I could tell you what makes me choose to use it for one story and not another, but I honestly don’t know. I used to think it was a serious/goofy divide or a graphic sex=present tense kind of thing, but both have proven to be completely untrue. Thoughts?

2) “Fuck. I love you.” I still have mixed feelings about that line. I like it because it’s raw, but I also kind of wish I could have come up with something...classier? Swearing in stories: pages and pages of meta could be written just on that. Um. But not by me.

3) Admittedly, this was very much an example of “sex as a metaphor,” or sex as one giant, whomping piece of SYMBOLISM. Which I can’t help but like, weird little litgeek that I am, though I’ll admit that it doesn't make for the sexiest sex in the world. Thankfully, I wasn't trying to write the world’s sexiest sex--although that might be on my list of resolutions for the new year. *eg*

•Why I think other people may have thought I was other people:

[livejournal.com profile] eliade: The fewest number of people thought that the story was by [livejournal.com profile] eliade, and I would agree that our styles are the least alike. I’m not really sure what makes them seem so dissimilar to me, or why I’m now picturing [livejournal.com profile] eliade and myself standing next to each other in a Usual Suspects-style police line-up, but yeah. *cough*

[livejournal.com profile] slodwick: Dialogue. A lot of people said that they thought the story was [livejournal.com profile] slodwick’s because of the dialogue. As [livejournal.com profile] slodwick’s dialogue is awesome, I am very, very okay with that. *g*

[livejournal.com profile] oxoniensis: Because we’re both very...thinky? No, really. That’s my reason.

[livejournal.com profile] astolat: Because we loves the semi-colons. Yes we do! SEMI-COLON LOVE!

-->In conclusion...well, actually, I don’t have any deep conclusions. Rather, these are just some things I’ve noticed, things that made me smile or cock my head in confusion. I’m waiting to hear what you all have to say, and by our powers combined, I’m sure we can arrive at something profound. Or, to quote one of my favorite movies (here I go again, [livejournal.com profile] _inbetween_!): “Draw your own conclusions.” ;-)

[identity profile] spazatron.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The phone. Is finally. Ringing.

Pick it up! *weeps* This is so upsetting. I will read your porn if you pick up the phone!

[identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
MY phone isn't ringing! What's going on?

*cries* *tears hair*

[identity profile] spazatron.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I...I don't understand. (However, I think it's cute that all the comments I leave on your LJ these days are about trying to get ahold of you telephonically.) But dude, WTF. Are you able to receive calls from other people? This is what I'm dialing:

10-15-335 (I've also tried with my calling card) 011 353 087 053 8496.

If I add 1 for the city code, it tells me I can't make an international call as dialed, which makes sense because I don't think you need city codes for cell phones. When I put the 1 before the country code, I get a busy signal, and that's basically all I get when I try with the calling card.

None of this makes any sense. I called you when I was in Berkeley, right? This isn't some sort of wacky hallucination on my part, I hope.

[identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand either! That looks right to me, and it's exactly what countrycallingcodes.com says. I have received calls from other people and you have called me before from Berkeley--WTF is going on?

Do you maybe have a friend or acquaintance who is willing to give it a shot to see if that works? I'd ask my parents, but they are on a plane.

*frustration*
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[identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, I was frankly amazed and flattered at the company I was listed as an option with. Definitely made me smile.

I didn't guess this one correctly, and I'm not sure why... I think perhaps because I read it early in the morning, before work, and my brain wasn't quite up to picking up any clues? And I think the custard brain wigged me a little. Though, looking back, the numbered notes at the end did give me pause. *g*

Also? Your reaction to the sparse comment is totally my reaction to the whole dialogue thing. I mean, really, wtf? I loathe writing dialogue. HATE. It is my least favorite thing (even more than the dreaded plot-word), and it's probably the main reason I wrote so many vignettes in SV fandom, so to have any sort of notoriety for dialogue just blows. my. mind.

[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Also did not read the stories until after the reveal but here's what would have given it away for me (aside from the BtVS mention): the colon usage. Where you say something, colon, and short explaination. I do that sometimes, and I have a running list in my head of who also uses that style.

And, OMG PRESENT TENSE IS LIEK WOAH ALL OTHER TENSES ARE FOR LOSERS!!67!

[identity profile] lyra-sena.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I am sneaking on here at work, because I have been wanting to read more of your fics. This is absolutely lovely; tender and revealing beyond what even the characters themselves realize.

What I've enjoyed most about your fics so far is the gorgeous rhythm they have. When you mention in your meta that you like to read/try to use "real" and "fragile" ideas, it's so apparent in how you write. I love how their conversations seem fragile -- like they're saying things that aren't even there, elusive, they're talking around everything. You have a great way of structuring the sentences that's unique and lends to the pleasing rhythm I find myself drawn into when I read your fic.

annnd I'ma get caught online here; emailing you more later.
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[personal profile] darcydodo 2005-12-29 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
If I'd read it, I figure Vermont and Muybridge and Buffy would've given it away. But then, I know you pretty well. ;)

[identity profile] spazatron.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconded.
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[personal profile] wychwood 2005-12-29 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Whee! I still rock at stalkerishness! :) Nah. The Wilson thing was kind of a giveaway, because it was in my journal, and you're pretty much the only SGA-type person who actually comments on the damn thing (fool! flee while you can!). So no one except me was going to know that *g*.

Although [livejournal.com profile] wychwood, I don’t actually remember talking about him to you.

I don't think you did... I think you posted about him recently. Or mentioned him. Or something. Someone on LJ talked about him recently, and in my head it was you. There was a link to a picture, or something. I did look back a bit, and couldn't find the post, so maybe I was stalking you WITH MY MIND instead. But definitely: I remembered the name as something I'd seen here.

[livejournal.com profile] wychwood has a scary good memory for my more obscure interests, nobody actually listed any reasons why they thought it was me. Other than “gut feeling”--if anyone wants to take a stab at explicating that more thoroughly, I’d love to hear it.

Muahahaha.

I tended to go with "gut feeling" a lot. I think that for most of us, we aren't English students, and we tend not to be so aware of the details of style, we don't unpack things that thoroughly. So what you perceive as "typical semi-colon use" is unlikely to percolate through to my conscious mind, but perhaps subconsciously is something I will piece together. It's like that Sherlock Holmes thing, you know? He says "this man is a merchant sailor with rank Master's Mate from a vessel which has recently visited China because of a, b, c, d and e", whereas I might get a vague impression of "maritime".

[livejournal.com profile] isiscolo seems to look at things like you do; she was talking about guessing [livejournal.com profile] sga_santa authors by usage of grammar and punctuation, constructions, all that sort of thing. I'm getting a little better about stylistic quirks - and I have some idea why I think of you and [livejournal.com profile] godofwine as writing in a similar way. But I still don't know why I class [livejournal.com profile] resonant8 and [livejournal.com profile] shalott as so similar in style.

I like your style. Which is probably totally guessable by now, given how often I say so *g*. But I don't think there's anything wrong with having quirks or tendencies in your writing - none of them overpower what you're trying to do, and it means you have a distinctive voice. Or at least, I thought you did, right up until everyone else failed to guess what I thought of as a blatantly obvious [livejournal.com profile] trinityofone story!

...but I'm kind of hiding right now anyway, because I explained in great detail why I thought one of the [livejournal.com profile] sga_santa stories was written by a particular author, who was not only not the right person, but the author I guessed didn't even do the contest... *shamed*
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[personal profile] aurora 2005-12-29 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, I guessed right *dances*.

I just felt like something you would write. I think it were the cultural references/names that did it. Seriously, every time I read a fic of yours, I'm snooping around on Wiki for one reason or another. :)

Also, the BtVS and particularly the Spike reference. And this sentence: He wants to say: It’s all so fragile. He wants to say: I can’t bear to lose... He wants to say: It’s all in your hands, I’m in your hands, please be careful, be careful—
He says, “What do you think he saw?”

The only thing that made me consider the other writers, was the fact that this story was a bit too schmoopy (or more schmoopy than your other ones), imo. But then again, Schmoop Week. :D

It's a great fic and you should be very proud. :X
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[identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't read this before - I haven't even looked at [livejournal.com profile] undermistletoe because I can't even keep up with [livejournal.com profile] sga_santa. But as usual it's very nice.

I love talking about my own writing more than anything else, but I also love seeing what others say about their writing. Also, I am very into the whole "identifying authors by style," as you might guess if you've been reading my lj.

I'm with you on the semi-colon love, but I hate present tense with the fire of ten thousand suns. Not that I haven't recced stories which use it, and even used it myself, but it imposes a layer of artificiality and conscious narration that I have to get past to immerse myself in the story.
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[personal profile] fairestcat 2005-12-30 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I find your comments on present tense really interesting, because I seem to have almost exactly the opposite take on it.

I find myself, at times reading a story in past tense and trying to change it all to present in my head. I feel like, for certain types of stories, particularly those with the kind of immediacy a lot of fanfic has, past tense imposes an unnatural distance between the reader and the action. I sometimes have to struggle past the past tense to get drawn into a story.

I'm trying to see if I can figure out where the differentiating point is for me and I'm struggling. I think it's this -- most stories can work just as well in past or present, assuming the writer is comfortable in their tense. The stories that read off to me in past tense are ones that feel like they're taking place in real time, stories that take place all in one scene or in a series or scenes following immediately upon each other. But I'm not sure if that's 100% right either, it's a gut thing again, some stories jsut *feel* wrong in past tense to me.
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[identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com 2005-12-30 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think my tastes are bound up in my preference for long, plotty stories that cover a longer period of time. Present tense seems artificial for these, but with past, I don't sense the narrator - it's just "what happened."

I like (or at least, don't dislike) present tense in ficlet-length stories. But if things happen (and I prefer stories in which Things Happen) I prefer past.

[identity profile] not-sally.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
ok, first? Welcome back.
Second: I missed it! I didn't see the fic at [livejournal.com profile] undermistletoe!! Why?!?
Third: OMG!!! I'm so in love with your fics. Each and every one of them. You have the most amazing writing style, and I just love them. I don't know how you manage to create such incredibly unique fics, and make them fit with John, Rodney and the SGA universe, but you do, and you always get me teary, or giggly, or anything! your fics make me feel. A lot. I love them.
This was wonderful, the Spike joke was hilarious and the whole thing was so disturbingly sweet, I loved it.

[identity profile] porntestpilot.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG! I SUCK! I thought it def. wasn't you! I thought [livejournal.com profile] oxoniensis because it totally sounded to me like her HP stuff.

[identity profile] ladyagnew.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
hee. I totally should've guessed you, but I picked most of my guesses of stylistic tells, because that's usually how I approach stories, prose-first. The content can wait -- esp with slash. So I was all mixed up with guessing right b/c while I've read all your SGA work, I'm not solidly familiar with your style. It's a lovely readable style, but not one I could identify cold from a line-up, even though apparently I was deluded that I could. (ah, hubris, again tripping me up!)

eliade -- whom I've been reading for years and years, ever since TXF -- has a savage sort of bitey irony under all her words, and she tends to use esoteric & surprising word choices. Like describing some as a ziggurat: it's gorgeous and right, but surprising. astolat -- whom I've also been reading for years, since, hm, HP? -- has a sort of mathematical precision to her words, and very little interior description, and the occasional turn of phrase that's poetic and perfect. They both have very recognizable prose styles. But for some reason I thought I knew your style better than I (obviously) did, and knocked you out b/c it didn't "feel" like you. Obviously, I was wrong wrong wrong; just as obviously you need to write 50,000 more words in a fandom I can read in so I'll have soaked in your style like a sponge and can ID you from out a line-up...

The funny thing about style tells is how convinced you are that all your quirks are obvious. I tend to use "really" and "quite" as modifiers a lot and also, uh, lots of slang and colorful terms and love parenthetical asides, but I don't know if other people pick up on that. Your list of characteristics you feel crop up a lot in your writing has me gently pondering, b/c I don't automatically recognize 'em.

Because we’re both very...thinky? No, really. That’s my reason.

hee, and yes! I guessed oxeniensis because I was also not familiar with a lot of her work, but it seemed similar enough. I had crossed you off b/c I was falsely under the impression the prose didn't feel like you, but subj matter-wise, it would've been down to you and ox. Somehow slodwick didn't feature in the contest. So I picked oxeniensis based on faulty deduction: prose knocked out you, astolat and eliade, and slodwick just wasn't right. And oxeniensis seemed sufficiently "thinky" for the story.

I was suspicious re: Shep's characterization b/c, well, the majority tend to write him more alpha than you. Even in the "Olympus" story, he's not really alpha, he's an outsider. In most McShep, the tendency is for Shep to be more commanding, and well, snarkier. Your Shep tends to be on equal footing with McKay, and where other Sheps would snark and nip their McKays, your Shep's first instinct is to protect his McKay, and by that not physically but verbally and mentally. (Pretty much every version of Shep would throw themselves onto a grenade for McKay.) He comforts when other versions would smack down. Like in "Sliding Scale", where John is utterly unable to go thru w/ the 3-some. Most other versions of John would be tugging Rodney out by the arm and talking him straight (or gay, whatever). Yours decides to wait out the icky girl encounter outside so as not to crush Rodney's enthusiasm for hetero sexing. He's protective of his boyfriend's horny enthusiasm! It's too sweet, and is very characteristic of your Shep. And in "Consilience", instead of smacking Rodney's doom and gloom thinking down with a sardonic aside or something, he plays along and reassures him. Sweet and dorky, and utterly you.

I hoped my (rather circuituous and occasionally lame & incoherent) analysis was of any help to you. I wanna say that I've really been enjoying your stories, and have not left as much feedback as I wanted to, and also, that whole analysis of "Horses over the Hill" -- I wanted to jump into that but was kept back from laziness. B/c I had totally important stuff to say there.

[identity profile] lilac-way.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The only story I definitively identified was astolat's, probably because I have been reading her since HP.

However, two things made me think this one was you:

Rodney would hit John with his pillow, but then John would stop rubbing his shoulder like that. And that would be sad.

The construction of this passage just sounded like your stuff. Also, the Vermont mention. When I read it, I immediately thought "This one time, in Vermont..."
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[personal profile] fairestcat 2005-12-30 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, let me see if I can expand on that "gut feeling" with hindsight.

I think the present tense, which I adore, was part of it. And the semi-colons.

And not so much the style as the tone. There's a certain contemplative, information rich but almost languid feel that a lot of your best stories have in common, I think.

Mostly though, I think it was Rodney though. There's something very distinctively yours and yet still very Rodney about your Rodney if that makes sense. It's a good thing too, I adore how you write Rodney's pov.

[identity profile] monkeypumpkin.livejournal.com 2005-12-30 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Attempting to explain my gut feeling, since I guessed right on this one. Your writing tends to be a combination of the difficult and the sweet, with hard thinky depressing bits contrasted to really calm loving ones and making it hard to characterize the tone of a story. This story just had that very clearly.

[identity profile] randomeliza.livejournal.com 2005-12-30 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. Well, I didn't guess on any of them, but I thought it was you when I read it for two reasons: first of all, basing a fic around the work of an obscure scientist/author seems like something you'd do - I guess the intellectual mixing with the good porn like in Something Wicked is kind of something I associate with the stuff you've written. And second, because Tango seemed like such an [livejournal.com profile] astolat-written story that it was definitely not her, and she would have been my second choice for who wrote it, because woo hoo semi-colons. (I could write an ode to semi-colons I love them so much - however, that would be a highly nerdy thing to do, and I would never admit to doing it.)

In any case, I love "Guess The Author" things like this, even if I never participate because I'm a loser.

Also: I love the way you write Rodney in this. Especially at the beginning, the listing of things seems like such a Rodney thought process, especially when it's listing how the thought process even gets processed. Rodney's voice works so well here, even when John's voice doesn't quite work for me (I can't really see John calling Rodney a "big goof" and it broke the otherwise perfect flow of the story for me) and I love how he realizes and obsesses over how fragile everything is, how the things he has no control over are the scariest of all. Rodney works in this. Like I said, I absolutely love the way you wrote him.

[identity profile] coreopsis.livejournal.com 2005-12-30 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't know if I could have guessed this was yours, but I certainly did enjoy it. That was possibly the best ILY that I've read in this fandom--Rodney doing it upside down and then John's reaction. *sigh* Lovely.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_bettina_/ 2005-12-31 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Just read it and it's wonderful, very nice.

[identity profile] amnellwyvern.livejournal.com 2006-01-01 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ummm, wow. I can't even find words to describe this. I loved this story, it had wonderful meaning and really seemed to capture the characters for me. Beautiful! Of course....I did just finish a bottle of champagne.... *g* Really, I loved it!
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[identity profile] smittywing.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
I love the present tense. (And so should you--especially [livejournal.com profile] smittywing! *eg*)

Argh! No, I so should not! *sulks* Right, so I worked on the 12-part pornless wonder this weekend and it's all in present tense and I have nothing but loathing for the style. (When I write it. I'm all about other people writing it!) Perhaps there will be love next week.

*skulks off*
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[identity profile] smittywing.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
*facepalm* Also, because I had a brainspasm on the present tense thing and forgot there was an actual fic attached to this:

I'm just beyond terrible at guessing styles but if I had been even remotely willing to take a guess, it would have been you, for the esoteric trivia. I thought to myself, this is totally the kind of crack [livejournal.com profile] trinityofone comes up with all the time but I have no faith in my own random thoughts. Also, I failed to notice the entire Buffy thing which should have given it away, at least partway. Also, I like when Rodney is overthinky, because it should be hard for him to turn it off, and I like when boys are a little crude because I went to college with a bunch of boys who sorta forgot I was a girl and they would be the biggest pigs around me and y'know, I kinda miss them. So boys talking bluntly, especially military boys, really rings true to me. Aces. :D

[identity profile] bluebrocade.livejournal.com 2006-01-04 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, loved it! Funny you should say you didn't like the line “Fuck. I love you.” I love that line. It's so real and as you say, raw.

[identity profile] kho.livejournal.com 2006-04-22 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, I'm new to the fandom, so I'm just now doing the "catch up on all the really good fics and finding all the authors" thing, and I've been reading a few of your fics just now, and...

“And I’m in love with you,” he says. “I’m—”

The words choke him, then; overwhelm him, what little courage he possessed vanishing in a shocked exhalation of breath. But John is there to catch him, clutching at his shoulders and neck, mumbling, “God, Rodney; Rodney, Rodney, oh God, God...”

“I love you, too,” John says, arms braced but trembling, weak. “Fuck. I love you.”


Congratulations. You've just made me cry. CRY. I DON'T DO THAT! I DON'T! Not for fics. I mean, the very, very RARE fic has made me cry, bu t... th at just totally made me shed t his single solitary lone tear, and just... grin the hugest grin in the history of grins, and just yeah. GOD this is good. LOL.

And oh man, the Rodney-Freakout is freaking perfect. I'm in love with his hypochondria because it fits him so perfectly... for a man with su ch a big smart brain, of COURSE he's a hypochondriac. Most geniuses are hypochondriacs to some degree, precisely BECAUSE they're geniuses.

Anyway, th is fic is just perfection, and his realizing that he's in love with John is exactly the perfect impetus for this freakout.

[identity profile] sasha-feather.livejournal.com 2008-03-14 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, this is a lovely, lovely story! Well done!

[identity profile] gottalovev.livejournal.com 2010-03-01 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
that is a gorgeous story, and it totally made me tear up.