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Work is especially miserable today, and I think I'm fighting off a cold, so let's avoid all that stuff and talk about books instead! (Denial is my friend.)

Week 3: 15-21 January 2007

13. Watching the English, Kate Fox — A really amusing anthropological look at the English by an Englishwoman. Fox’s sense of humor is what really makes this book; it’s a bit long and repetitive at parts—skewing too much toward being an academic text when what I want (need) it to be is a work of popular science—but Fox’s own innate “Oh, come off it!” reaction always pulls through in the end. Somewhat frightening: how much of Fox’s “grammar of Englishness” I find applicable to myself—social awkwardness, humor, cynicism, belief in fair play… Bloody hell! Sodding, blimey, shagging, knickers, bollocks… Oh, God! I’m English!




14. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, Tom Stoppard — Shockingly, I hadn’t read this before. And actually, what really surprised me about it was how creepy it was. I read it right before bed and ohhh, that was a mistake. Other than that, I’m afraid that I don’t have anything terribly interesting to say, at least not without sounding like a bad high school English essay. Shall I talk about fate? Wordplay? Metatextuality? Um. I don’t want to. I’m tired and my analyzers are broken. This tends to be the kind of time when unfortunately I utterly fail to be deep. But at least I liked this rather a lot more than Waiting For Godot.




15. Mathematicians in Love, Rudy Rucker — I have mixed feelings about this one. I loved the first few chapters, setting up Bela’s alternate universe—our world but not (and specifically, Berkeley but not, which was particularly fun for me). I loved some of the insights into the different ways Bela and Paul approached math; the idea of Bela hearing equations as music was wonderful, because I’m always fascinated by the way people think. Some of the alternate universe theory was cool, too—I dug the council of alien mathematicians—but other parts of it didn’t work for me. So Bela and Co. save Earth 2 from a corrupt political machine that’s clearly based on the Bush administration (and do so through the power of rock ‘n’ roll, which was awesome), but then Bela escapes to “the best of all possible worlds”—and it’s our world? Huh? I also couldn’t get behind the ending, and couldn’t really enjoy the love-triangle-y bits, because I hated Alma; I thought she was a selfish bitch and couldn’t understand why Bela and Paul were fighting over her or why “boy gets girl” should be seen as a happy and satisfactory conclusion. (Though I did enjoy the few excuses it gave for Bela and Paul to be a bit gay for each other—check out the dream sequence where Bela reaches over to stroke Alma’s pussy and instead wakes up gasping at the imagined touch of Paul’s cock.) So really, what I liked the best were the bits about Bela’s band; I guess what I really wanted was a story about alternate universe rock ‘n’ roll. With no Alma.




16. The Double Helix, James D. Watson — Watson’s retelling of his and Francis Crick’s discovery of the structure of DNA. Really a story about academic infighting, which Watson recounts with enough humor to make it quite amusing. The science stuff is really mostly beyond me, but the book is enjoyable if, like I said above, you’re interested in how human thought processes work, and in the social foibles of very smart people. I couldn’t help going to the “this would make great SGA fic” place; for example, here’s Watson’s opening description of Crick: I have never seen Francis Crick in a modest mood…It has nothing to do with his present fame. Already he is much talked about…but that was not true [in] the fall of 1951…At that time he was thirty-five, yet almost totally unknown. Although some of his closest colleagues realized the value of his quick, penetrating mind and frequently sought his advice, he was often not appreciated, and most people thought he talked too much. Heh.

One curious thing about this book is the treatment of Rosalind Franklin, one of the rival scientists at King’s. In telling the story as it happened, Watson depicts Franklin in an often not-so-favorable light, as for a long time he did not like her, but at the end he goes out of the way to credit her and say how much he came to like her later. This seems reasonable within the context of the narrative, yet some of the reading I did afterward suggests that there is further controversy about Watson and Crick’s use of Franklin’s results, etc. I’d be curious to read a book about Franklin and see what perspectives it has to offer.

But, controversy aside, this is a great example of science as an adventure story, and I quite enjoyed it.




17. The Man in the Queue, Josephine Tey — Appropriately after reading Watching the English, here’s a murder mystery that revolves around queuing. I adore Tey’s The Daughter of Time, but I’d never read any other books by her. This is her first novel (originally published under a male pseudonym; ‘Tey’ is actually a pseudonym, too) and it introduces Alan Grant, who’s the detective in Daughter of Time, too. He’s an enjoyable, if not especially vivid character to me—Time is fantastic because of its plot, which involves an investigation of whether Richard III was framed—but here, where the plot is less solid, the fact that Grant is (to make the obvious comparison) no Peter Wimsey is especially and unfortunately apparent. The ending was additionally disappointing—an unprompted confession? Lame! All in all, while this was a light, quick read, it was not an especially memorable one.




18. The Book of Lost Things, John Connolly — An immensely engaging story about stories. David’s mother dies and he moves with his father and his not-so-evil stepmother to a new house in the country, where, after hearing books start to whisper to him (I loved the descriptions of what the different types of books sounded like) and sensing the Crooked Man watching him, he finds a way through to another, dark fairytale world. Connolly twists a lot of familiar stories, playing with gender and often switching good guys and bad, and it’s really cool. (There are gay knights. GAY KNIGHTS!) The atmosphere is also fantastic, and dark as hell—this could almost be a children’s story, except it’s really violent and at times quite scary. (The whole huntress sequence freaked me the fuck out.) The attitude is also refreshingly adult; I really liked how David’s growth was presented. In fact, all of this world-building and character development was so good that I kind of wished that it resulted in more; the end was actually kind of quiet and understated and sad—an ending that I respect, I guess, if not the one I wanted. Still, I love books about books and stories about stories, and this was an incredibly imaginative and scary and exciting and moving example of that. Plus, gay knights.

Total Books: 18

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thalassius.livejournal.com
Oh, God! I’m English!

There's hope for you yet :)

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
To reform, or to continue to slide down that slippery slope? *g*

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] th-esaurus.livejournal.com
Have you seen the ROsencrantz and Guildenstern film? It is awesome. Although I may be biased.





Also...hello.

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:30 pm (UTC)

Hi!

Date: 2007-01-22 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I haven't seen the film, although now I definitely want to; I think it would be even better performed.

Why are you biased?

Re: Hi!

Date: 2007-01-22 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] th-esaurus.livejournal.com
Gary Oldman plays Rosencrantz...and he is my favourite actor in the world ;D Also I have seen it on stage, and it was A GENERALLY ALL-ROUND TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE, but it was am-dram and in the most over-heated, tiniest little studio ever.

Re: Hi!

Date: 2007-01-22 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Ahhh... Well, in my opinion, that's a perfectly acceptable bias to have!

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:24 pm (UTC)
wychwood: a room completely full of books (gen - stacks of books)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
I've been meaning to read the Kate Fox book (though I have to tell you, you may be English but you aren't Spike *g*), and that's definitely moved it up my list.

James Watson - I went to a talk he did at the Union, back when I was a Fresher, and boy was that a mistake. He's clearly a good scientist, or he wouldn't have got where he did, but he has such a chip on his shoulder - the whole talk was about how people had put him down and dismissed him and not given him what he "deserved". It left a really nasty taste in my mouth. It sounds like he's the same in writing, then?

I find Josephine Tey mostly reasonably enjoyable but not earth-shattering (apart from, of course, The Daughter of Time, which is just plain awesome); you might be better=off with her more famous stories, The Franchise Affair and Brat Farrar, because I think they're stronger. I like Brat Farrar more, and suspect it might appeal to you.

And the Connolly is also going on the list! Damn you and your interesting books *g*. Between you and [livejournal.com profile] minnow1212 I have an ever-growing list of books that the library doesn't have because they're American and haven't made it over here. Very frustrating.

Hey! I can be Spike if I want!

Date: 2007-01-22 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Watson wasn't too chip-on-shoulder in the book—he was actually fairly magnanimous—although you could perhaps see the beginnings of those tendencies developing. I hate it when people whose work is admirable are personally icky. (Thomas Stearns, I'm looking at you!)

Brat Farrar sounds worth checking out; thanks! And I'm sorry [livejournal.com profile] minnow1212 and I are torturing you, but I don't think America can actually take credit for Connolly. I believe he is Irish..?

No, no, you can't. Ix-nay on the ood-blay.

Date: 2007-01-22 09:07 pm (UTC)
wychwood: chess queen against a runestone (Default)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
I don't think America can actually take credit for Connolly. I believe he is Irish..?

Dunno, I haven't actually checked that one *g*. It was more of a general complaint on my part - I went through my list reserving things from the library a few days back, and the top half of the list is all American stuff they don't have, now :)

*pouts* I bloody well can.

Date: 2007-01-22 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Yup, Irish! And a Trinity grad, too—neat!

Is there really often a lag between when things are available here and in England? I mean, there sometimes is in reverse, but it really tends to be the exception, not the rule. ...Right?

Nope, not buying it

Date: 2007-01-22 09:56 pm (UTC)
wychwood: chess queen against a runestone (Default)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
Not so much lag time as just - things don't necessarily get published here. And a (non-bestselling) American YA novel from twenty years ago? Unless it's by Judy Blume or Paula Danziger, you can go whistle, frankly. Even UK novels of the same type aren't always easy to find. Basically, if it's moderately obscure for you, it's quite possibly unattainable for me.

And think about the Temeraire books - Black Powder War was only published in hardback this month, over here, though the US paperback came out last May. I don't know how common that is, though. Films still lag a lot - we've got "Night at the Museum" and "The Pursuit of Happyness" at the moment, but we've also got "Happy Feet", which came out months back, and you're just getting "Children of Men", which I saw in September... basically it seems to be a potluck :)

ZOMG OPPRESSION!!

Date: 2007-01-22 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Yeah, from what I remember from Ireland, potluck seems about right. (Though I thought it was worse with movies than with books.)

Also—Children of Men! I just saw that this weekend; wasn't it fantastic?
wychwood: Rodney is surrounded by idiots (SGA - Rodney surrounded by idiots)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
Visually I thought it was amazing; I had some trouble with the story, because of the changes they'd made to the book (which mostly took it in a direction I felt had more dodgy gender implications), but as a piece of cinema, yeah, really impressive.

and...and you have stupid hair!

Date: 2007-01-22 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Hmm, one of the first things I did when I got home after seeing the movie was request the book on BookMooch. My mom said it was quite different as well. More thoughts once I've read it!
wychwood: chess queen against a runestone (Default)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
There are quite a lot of differences, yeah. I'd be interested to see what you think, anyway!

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com

For a look at the discovery of DNA that's focused on Rosalind Franklin, I'd recommend Dignifying Science: Stories About Women Scientists (http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/03/15/dignifying-science/), which is actually a graphic novel / anthology featuring some of the most awesome female writer/artists working today.

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
That looks excellent; thanks so much for the rec!

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com
I don't know if you saw my link the other day, but I was actually thinking of you specifically when I pointed out Shelfair (http://www.shelfari.com/) -- the bonus of which would be that you could point anyone you like to that site without giving up your LJ vitals.

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I did see your post, but I didn't investigate enough because I'm already so dedicated to LibraryThing (http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?view=trinityofone). But I'll look more closely now—what can I say, I'm a book site whore.

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:47 pm (UTC)
ext_2524: do what you like (Default)
From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com
Ahh... see, I had never seen any other sites like this prior to Shelfari, so I'm book site newbie. Plus, I just love the Shelfari interface -- it's so pretty. :D

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Date: 2007-01-22 08:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] in-interval.livejournal.com
I adore Tey’s The Daughter of Time, but I’d never read any other books by her.

If you like Tey at all, you really should give Brat Farrar a try. No Alex Grant at all, but he's not needed. The Amazon blurb is:

It was eight years since Patrick had vanished leaving a pitiful note, “I’m sorry but I can’t bear it any longer. Don’t be angry with me, Patrick.” Now it seemed, he had returned — just in time to claim the family inheritance. But if Patrick really had committed suicide, who was this mysterious young man claiming to be him and calling himself Brat Farrar?

I get warm fuzzies every time I read it. There are horses everywhere in it, but I am not a horse person and love it anyway.

(Full disclosure since you loved The Daughter of Time: I think it's better than The Daughter of Time which I regard as a somewhat thinly disguised Richardian treatise. But Tey improved with every book and The Man in the Queue is probably her weakest.)

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Date: 2007-01-22 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Tey improved with every book and The Man in the Queue is probably her weakest.

I thought it might be something like that: first book ≠ best book. Brat Farrar sounds interesting, and with your rec and [livejournal.com profile] wychwood's, I'll definitely give it a try!

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Date: 2007-01-22 09:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] in-interval.livejournal.com
And that's what I get for taking so darned long to compose a comment - I completely missed that [livejournal.com profile] wychwood had already rec'd it.

Love these lists of yours by the way - thanks so much for doing them!

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Date: 2007-01-22 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Hey, second opinions are always appreciated! Who knows, that [livejournal.com profile] wychwood might be extremely untrustworthy... *eyes her*

Talking about books is really my pleasure, so I'm so glad other people are enjoying it, too!

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Date: 2007-01-22 09:58 pm (UTC)
wychwood: chess queen against a runestone (Default)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
*looks innocent*

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Now I'm not buying it. *eg*
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Date: 2007-01-22 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
It was my mom who recommended The Double Helix to me. She described it as "boys pursue science (and girls)." *g*
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Date: 2007-01-22 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I don't read at work. (Well, not books anyway—that's conspicuous, while staring at my computer screen is not.) I guess...I just have no life, maybe?

Anyway, I doubt I'll be able to keep up at this kind of pace.
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Date: 2007-01-22 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
There's lots of love for Brat Farrar in this thread! I put it on my BookMooch wishlist. *g*

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Date: 2007-01-22 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelastgoodname.livejournal.com
Anne Sayre's Rosalind Franklin and DNA is the prototypical "women in science" text for the whole search for DNA. Another very interesting book about a woman in science is Evelyn Fox Keller's A Feeling for the Organism: the Life and Work of Barbara McClintock, which is half personal biography, half biography of a field. Both are fairly small books and very quick reads, but of people who are pretty universally ignored in the "BNS" sweepstakes (big name scientists).

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Thanks; I'll check both of those out. (And now I am very amused at the thought of there being a science_wank including fights about who are the BNSes and "What are your thoughts on Heisenberg?" and...)

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Date: 2007-01-23 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelastgoodname.livejournal.com
It's called the history of science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science), and they make the fandom_wank people look like amateurs. The realism versus rationalism wank was epic, and is still played out in grad seminars all over the world. The only difference is that in academic wank, fewer people marry fictional characters on astral planes (so far, anyway).

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tahariel.livejournal.com
I love 'Watching the English'. Being English, I sat there and read it and went '...do that. Do that. Oh yeah, I totally do that. Hey! Oh, no, wait, that's kinda true...'

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I had the exact same reaction! Except...I'm American. Um. I guess that explains why I've always been such an anglophile?

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tahariel.livejournal.com
Give in to the Anglo Side of the Force... bwa ha ha ha!

(Hmm... it doesn't really work, does it? Damn.)

Seriously though, queueing is such a thing. I really can't stand queuejumpers. I actually start plotting in my head how to thwart them whenever I see someone who looks like they're thinking about it.

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caseymae.livejournal.com
Regarding Rosencrantz and Guildenstern... I hear ya sister.

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Then would you mind perhaps telling me what exactly I was trying to say? ;-)

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:39 pm (UTC)
ext_248: Audrey Hepburn and George Peppard looking bored in a strip club (Starbuck Hee!)
From: [identity profile] gentle-thorns.livejournal.com
If you liked The book of lost things , you should try The Book Thief by Markus Zusak :)

Also, this is a really good idea. Too bad the year's already in progress.

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Date: 2007-01-22 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Ooh, The Book Thief looks excellent! Thank you!

And hey, the year's barely in progress. I see no reason not to start. =)

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Date: 2007-01-22 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturnalia.livejournal.com
*uses the most applicable icon ever*

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern- god, I've been meaning to read that for ages. Will definitely have to track down a copy after this last exam is over and done with. (Although now I'm torn as to whether to watch the film or read the play first. Ack?)

Icon for the win!

Date: 2007-01-23 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I'm inclined to read first, watch second. Not that I don't do the opposite frequently enough (see discussion upthread about Children of Men).

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Date: 2007-01-23 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krisdia.livejournal.com
Um, hi. *waves* I don't known if I've ever really said hi here, but it was hard to pass up the chance to talk Tom Stoppard. I, too, thought R&G was clever but wasn't overly impressed, but I really fell for Stoppard after just *adoring* Arcadia, which I highly recommend...

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Date: 2007-01-23 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amy13.livejournal.com
I'm glad to hear you liked The Book of Lost Things. I bought it for a friend for Christmas, on a whim, because I spied it on the display at Borders at Christmas and it just seemed really interesting, even just based on the jacket. So. Yay! Maybe I *will* borrow it for my flight of doom, since she offered it up. :)

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Date: 2007-01-23 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doorrepairgirl.livejournal.com
(Some background: huge Stoppard nerd, first studied him in 9th grade, took a senior seminar in his work in college, will talk about him endlessly with little to no provocation, occasionally drag family members and unsuspecting friends across state lines to see his plays, etc.)

Definitely watch the film version of R&G. I had seen it several times before I ever read the words, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad way to go when you're dealing with a play - after all, it's meant to be seen and heard. R&G is one of my favorite mopey English major comfort movies (the other primary one is LA Story, but that's neither here nor there.)

As people have said, Arcadia is fabulous. Also on the fab list: The Real Inspector Hound, Travesties - features James Joyce reciting limericks! -, The Invention of Love - features Oscar Wilde in a boat! among other things - and basically everything else he's ever written. :)

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