Well, that's sacrilicious!
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trinityofoneA.K.A., The First of Probably Several Semi-Incoherent Posts About Comic-Con
Specifically, in this case, the Supernatural panel, because that was today, and I need to talk about it immediately.
OH MY FRICKIN' GOD. Okay. So, first thing, they showed us a five-minute clip from the season opener, which Kripke introduced—he said he couldn't show us the first five minutes, like they apparently did last year, because that would give too much away—about how Sam and Dean escape from Lucifer, most likely. He said instead we were getting five minutes from somewhere in the first act. I was immediately hoping they'd show us what went down at Chuck's with Cas vs. archangels, and yup! Opening shot is Sam and Dean crunching through the remains of Chuck's kitchen. Then Chuck comes around the corner and beans Sam in the head with...I think a toilet plunger. Chuck: You guys are okay! Sam: Well, my head hurts now. Dean asks what happened, where's Cas, and Chuck says Cas is dead. Dean doesn't believe it—he suggests that maybe Cas was just yanked back up to Heaven or vanished or some other angel-y thing. Chuck says no, the archangels totally thrashed him, he exploded, then elaborates with a really gross metaphor about Campbell's chunky soup. Then, to really drive the point home and make all the fangirls who somehow don't know Misha is a regular this year cry, Sam finds what is apparently one of Cas' (or really, Jimmy's—I feel pretty secure for Cas but this looks really bad for poor Jimmy) teeth in Chuck's hair. Chuck looks scarred for life. Dean looks devastated.
For more funtimes, Zachariah then shows up with two angel goons, both wearing suits—is this some kind of requirement for angelic vessels? Because we know Cas at least did not alter what Jimmy chose to don. (And therefore he's the only one who gets the bitchin' coat.) Anyway, Zachariah's smarmy as usual and Dean calls him some names that got some nice cheers from the crowd, but made what he actually said hard to hear. Zachariah tells Dean that they're on the same side again, because Dean wants to stop Lucifer and the angels want Dean to stop Lucifer. Dean essentially tells Zachariah to go fuck himself, Zachariah gets all huffy and "you will do what I say," and then he notices that Dean's got blood dripping out of his shirt sleeve. Zachariah's all: WTF? And then Dean springs an almost-complete angel-banishing-symbol (do we have a cool name for these yet? We need a cool name for these) on them. (I have no idea when he's supposed to have started it, but maybe that'll make more sense in context.) He finishes it off as Zachariah "noooooes!" at him, and as Dean slams his hand against it, he says, "That was for my friend Cas!" Cue: fangirl squee, end of clip.
In short: awesomeness! I was actually relieved to see how the whole Cas-is-dead bit played out, because I'd been spoiled for it, but now I know it's a first act revelation; furthermore, when pressed by the moderator (who was awesome) Kripke assured everyone that Castiel is fine (or will be), which puts to rest the last of my lingering doubts about the "Well, I can tell you Misha is returning, but not necessarily Castiel" interview soundbites. Misha talked a little bit about his arc next season: he said that he'll have lost some of his angel mojo (!) and will be dealing with being cut off from Heaven, and basically learning about being human (although I do not think he meant this literally). He also said that Cas will have a very specific mission that he needs to complete. On the lighter side: the mod asked which seat Castiel would get in the Impala, front or back, and Misha said the trunk with a straw to breathe through. (LOVE.) Ben Edlund said that they were doing another time travel episode, this time one in which they go five years into the future—and into the midst of the actual apocalypse. I wonder if this means that Cas' time travel whammy will remain intact, or if another angel serves as the time turner? Kripke also elaborated on the "Dean will take Cas out and try to loosen him up" spoiler—apparently Dean's not just taking Cas to a bar, but to a "whorehouse." Um. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WORDS AT ALL.
Luckily, though, I did at the time; I was bummed that I didn't get the best seats (although they weren't that bad actually—12/15 rows back, on Misha's side of the auditorium?), so I decided to be bold and go ask a question. I went and queued up before the panelists even came out (soMisha everyone walked right by me—eee!), and I was second in line. This also meant I got to watch most of the Q&A from the aisle, which was really nice. ANYWAY. I asked (coherently! in English! I think) whether Cas would be participating in any ordinary, MOTW-type hunts, and if so, what the dynamic there would be. Misha leaned over and whispered to Kripke, who whispered back—clearly a "Can I say this?" type of consultation; then Misha said, "Yes, and as for the dynamic, it's going to be awkward." Yay! This thrills me; I've been wanting Cas on an everyday hunt like nobody's business. And I suspect the awkwardness will be adorable.
Unfortunately, I was so high from having asked a question coherently that my mind's a bit of a blur about the rest of the questions; hopefully it will come back to me in time. This post is definitely part I; I also have pictures, but I have some camera issues that need to be resolved first. So—expect more!
Actually, expect a little more now, because I'm remembering more stuff even as I type, and I'm too lazy to go back and try to construct a coherent narrative. I'm sure plenty of other people have already discussed the fact that Misha and Jim apparently both ship Cas/Bobby (although Jim insists it's unrequited), but I have to thrill in the fact that when they were joking around about all that, the moderator—THE MODERATOR!—interrupted to say, "But won't that interfere with what's going on between Castiel and Dean?" The crowd, unsurprisingly, went wild, and I don't think anyone on the panel even had a smart response for that (though I personally may have passed out for a minute, so who knows).
Two other great Kripke quotes: first, the subject line arose from someone asking if there'd been any negative feedback from religious peeps re: the show's use of angels. Sera said no, that she thought that most people probably understood that they were just trying to tell a story, not make some religious point, and Kripke confirmed that yeah, they're just basically doing what they think is neat, although sometimes they have an idea and say to themselves, "Well, that's sacrilicious!" I think this is the perfect new trademark for the Dean/Castiel side of fandom.
It was then suggested that they use this stuff to make their own religion, an idea that Kripke seemed to like: "I'm going to L. Ron Hubbard this shit!"
Misha also said many other hilarious and charming and wonderful things, but they are unfortunately at the moment compounded into one big MISHA AWESOME blur in my brain. But he was; god, he was.
I am, impossibly, even more excited for September than I was before. My only bit of sadness is that they showed the blooper reel, and while it's hilarious...Misha isn't in it very much. Like, barely at all. Noes! I suppose that we can only conclude that this is because he DOESN'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES. EVER. I suspect that that will be one of the founding tenants of the new Supernatural religion.
Which reminds me: Kripke promised more meta episodes next year. Woo! Have I mentioned that I am more excited than ever?
In forthcoming posts: Big Bang Theory, True Blood, and scads of other things, including Paul Gross' new show, Eastwick. He plays the devil. My brain still can't take it.
Specifically, in this case, the Supernatural panel, because that was today, and I need to talk about it immediately.
OH MY FRICKIN' GOD. Okay. So, first thing, they showed us a five-minute clip from the season opener, which Kripke introduced—he said he couldn't show us the first five minutes, like they apparently did last year, because that would give too much away—about how Sam and Dean escape from Lucifer, most likely. He said instead we were getting five minutes from somewhere in the first act. I was immediately hoping they'd show us what went down at Chuck's with Cas vs. archangels, and yup! Opening shot is Sam and Dean crunching through the remains of Chuck's kitchen. Then Chuck comes around the corner and beans Sam in the head with...I think a toilet plunger. Chuck: You guys are okay! Sam: Well, my head hurts now. Dean asks what happened, where's Cas, and Chuck says Cas is dead. Dean doesn't believe it—he suggests that maybe Cas was just yanked back up to Heaven or vanished or some other angel-y thing. Chuck says no, the archangels totally thrashed him, he exploded, then elaborates with a really gross metaphor about Campbell's chunky soup. Then, to really drive the point home and make all the fangirls who somehow don't know Misha is a regular this year cry, Sam finds what is apparently one of Cas' (or really, Jimmy's—I feel pretty secure for Cas but this looks really bad for poor Jimmy) teeth in Chuck's hair. Chuck looks scarred for life. Dean looks devastated.
For more funtimes, Zachariah then shows up with two angel goons, both wearing suits—is this some kind of requirement for angelic vessels? Because we know Cas at least did not alter what Jimmy chose to don. (And therefore he's the only one who gets the bitchin' coat.) Anyway, Zachariah's smarmy as usual and Dean calls him some names that got some nice cheers from the crowd, but made what he actually said hard to hear. Zachariah tells Dean that they're on the same side again, because Dean wants to stop Lucifer and the angels want Dean to stop Lucifer. Dean essentially tells Zachariah to go fuck himself, Zachariah gets all huffy and "you will do what I say," and then he notices that Dean's got blood dripping out of his shirt sleeve. Zachariah's all: WTF? And then Dean springs an almost-complete angel-banishing-symbol (do we have a cool name for these yet? We need a cool name for these) on them. (I have no idea when he's supposed to have started it, but maybe that'll make more sense in context.) He finishes it off as Zachariah "noooooes!" at him, and as Dean slams his hand against it, he says, "That was for my friend Cas!" Cue: fangirl squee, end of clip.
In short: awesomeness! I was actually relieved to see how the whole Cas-is-dead bit played out, because I'd been spoiled for it, but now I know it's a first act revelation; furthermore, when pressed by the moderator (who was awesome) Kripke assured everyone that Castiel is fine (or will be), which puts to rest the last of my lingering doubts about the "Well, I can tell you Misha is returning, but not necessarily Castiel" interview soundbites. Misha talked a little bit about his arc next season: he said that he'll have lost some of his angel mojo (!) and will be dealing with being cut off from Heaven, and basically learning about being human (although I do not think he meant this literally). He also said that Cas will have a very specific mission that he needs to complete. On the lighter side: the mod asked which seat Castiel would get in the Impala, front or back, and Misha said the trunk with a straw to breathe through. (LOVE.) Ben Edlund said that they were doing another time travel episode, this time one in which they go five years into the future—and into the midst of the actual apocalypse. I wonder if this means that Cas' time travel whammy will remain intact, or if another angel serves as the time turner? Kripke also elaborated on the "Dean will take Cas out and try to loosen him up" spoiler—apparently Dean's not just taking Cas to a bar, but to a "whorehouse." Um. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WORDS AT ALL.
Luckily, though, I did at the time; I was bummed that I didn't get the best seats (although they weren't that bad actually—12/15 rows back, on Misha's side of the auditorium?), so I decided to be bold and go ask a question. I went and queued up before the panelists even came out (so
Unfortunately, I was so high from having asked a question coherently that my mind's a bit of a blur about the rest of the questions; hopefully it will come back to me in time. This post is definitely part I; I also have pictures, but I have some camera issues that need to be resolved first. So—expect more!
Actually, expect a little more now, because I'm remembering more stuff even as I type, and I'm too lazy to go back and try to construct a coherent narrative. I'm sure plenty of other people have already discussed the fact that Misha and Jim apparently both ship Cas/Bobby (although Jim insists it's unrequited), but I have to thrill in the fact that when they were joking around about all that, the moderator—THE MODERATOR!—interrupted to say, "But won't that interfere with what's going on between Castiel and Dean?" The crowd, unsurprisingly, went wild, and I don't think anyone on the panel even had a smart response for that (though I personally may have passed out for a minute, so who knows).
Two other great Kripke quotes: first, the subject line arose from someone asking if there'd been any negative feedback from religious peeps re: the show's use of angels. Sera said no, that she thought that most people probably understood that they were just trying to tell a story, not make some religious point, and Kripke confirmed that yeah, they're just basically doing what they think is neat, although sometimes they have an idea and say to themselves, "Well, that's sacrilicious!" I think this is the perfect new trademark for the Dean/Castiel side of fandom.
It was then suggested that they use this stuff to make their own religion, an idea that Kripke seemed to like: "I'm going to L. Ron Hubbard this shit!"
Misha also said many other hilarious and charming and wonderful things, but they are unfortunately at the moment compounded into one big MISHA AWESOME blur in my brain. But he was; god, he was.
I am, impossibly, even more excited for September than I was before. My only bit of sadness is that they showed the blooper reel, and while it's hilarious...Misha isn't in it very much. Like, barely at all. Noes! I suppose that we can only conclude that this is because he DOESN'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES. EVER. I suspect that that will be one of the founding tenants of the new Supernatural religion.
Which reminds me: Kripke promised more meta episodes next year. Woo! Have I mentioned that I am more excited than ever?
In forthcoming posts: Big Bang Theory, True Blood, and scads of other things, including Paul Gross' new show, Eastwick. He plays the devil. My brain still can't take it.
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Date: 2009-07-27 02:35 am (UTC)IT'S JUST THAT AWESOME OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG. WHY IS IT NOT SEPTEMBER WHY?????
Oh: That was for my friend Cas!"
And a subdued edit: Jimmy :( :( :(
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Date: 2009-07-27 02:42 am (UTC)It was so great I can't really comprehend it. Just, hilarious and exciting and entertaining all the way through—PLUS MISHA. Too much!
I am really sad about Jimmy, though. I mean, I suppose he could still be okay, although I don't really see how. But I really like him and I think it's a bummer to see such an interesting extra dynamic abandoned so soon. Though in doing so, they really just are inciting us to write more guilt-free porn, aren't they?
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Date: 2009-07-27 03:12 am (UTC)Misha said the trunk with a straw to breathe through.
Oh Misha, why must you make me revert to the starry-eyed teenaged girl I never was? Why? *doodles stupid pink hearts in her notebook*
(And and and, if Misha and Jim ship Cas/Bobby... does that mean Cas and Bobby get to meet next season? PLEASE SAY YES, WRITERS!)
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Date: 2009-07-27 03:25 am (UTC)I think we both have it real bad.
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Date: 2009-07-27 03:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-07-27 03:33 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-07-27 03:35 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-07-27 02:43 am (UTC)So, S3 needs to premiere, like, now. :goes to look up when it's happening: I like that he learned the symbols, tho I am confused as to where. Was it the one Castiel used in the S2 finale? Maybe he's got mad-on visual memory?
Either way, thanks for the report! I am tres hyped!
ETA: Rereading more carefully, but this has so much goodness, gaaaah. Your question was a great one, the subject of pissing of the religious folk was interesting, and DETAILS ON THIS EASTWICK, NAO!
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Date: 2009-07-27 03:04 am (UTC)I am so proud of myself that I asked a question. I will not even lie. I'm so glad it wasn't stupid!
Details on Eastwick...tomorrow? I promise. I am just so tired. But I will say that it looks like it could be fun, and I was several feet away from Paul Gross. For reals. *boggles*
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Date: 2009-07-27 03:33 am (UTC):hugs: Of course, of course. I was just being pushy. Rest, o' valiant con-goer.
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Date: 2009-07-27 02:43 am (UTC)The more devastated he looks, the harder I'm going to squeal, oh god. And I still haven't come down from THAT WAS FOR MY FRIEND CAS! fjdksa;flksd as far as I recall, Dean has NEVER called anyone his friend before, has he? *DRAWS SO MANY HEARTS AROUND THEM*
I asked (coherently! in English! I think) whether Cas would be participating in any ordinary, MOTW-type hunts
Omg that was YOU! GO YOU! \O/ LOVED his answer.
Thank you so much for the report and for linking me! ♥♥♥
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Date: 2009-07-27 03:11 am (UTC)He called him his friend! Some other people have reported that he said "buddy," but my recollection really is "friend"—I hope I'm right. I'm positive he's never said that. I think I might fall over.
I still am not over the urge to twirl prettily and be very proud of my question-asking skills. So thank you. :) (You would never know that I used to be a journalist and interview people professionally, would you?)
All the reportage is so awesome! I am so psyched!
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Date: 2009-07-27 03:21 am (UTC)I'm pretty sure you're right about "friend" since I've seen that a lot more than I've seen "buddy" and anyway the original "buddy" source confirmed it was "friend". (I love how we agonize so much over this little detail.) Also positive he's never said that about anyone else, which is. I mean. DEAN'S FIRST FRIEND! oh god, my heart, my heart.
*laughs* Misha does that to another professional journalist I know too, so it's not just you!
I AM SO PSYCHED AS WELL. \o/
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Date: 2009-07-27 02:51 am (UTC)OMFG everything sounds freaking awesome and I have to admit kudos for keeping the English plus walking plus actually making sense all straightened while you were asking your question because I am dead sure I would be one goopy puddle of melty thing!
Man I want September to be now!
And I am so not going to be reading Dean/Cas right now because not even fast typing is going to give me my marketing plan in under two hours!
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Date: 2009-07-27 05:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-07-27 06:41 am (UTC)NO LIE.
I can't believe he dies. I love Dean lashing out at the others. I love that Dean/Cas has practically surpassed Wincest at this point. And that, as ever, the production team just GETS us fangirls. Thanks for sharing!
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Date: 2009-07-27 07:57 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-07-27 02:25 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-07-27 07:23 pm (UTC)THAT WAS YOU! I had fourth-row seats, though, and I heard what Kripke said to Misha. It wasn't "You can say this," it was "Yes." Misha had no idea if Castiel would be participating in a MOTW hunt before Kripke confirmed it for him, and he made up the "awkward" answer.
When the moderator brought up Dean/Castiel, Sera Gamble said "I have no idea what you're talking about," in a tone that implied she knew precisely what she was talking about. The subtext is totally on purpose. XD