In which I fail to have one.

[trinityofone]

This episode really frustrated me. Mostly I think it's the fact that TWO WEEKS IN A ROW Rodney has worked really hard to save John and BOTH TIMES it was for nothing. That kills me--that he would work soso hard, and what does he get? No thanks and no real acknowledgement (aww, but he acknowledged Zelenka's idea *squishes him*). Elizabeth won't even sit next to him! (What was up with that? I mean ha ha, but you've got to know that Rodney takes shit like that to heart--he'd never acknowledge it, but he does.) Not to mention that his boyfriend cheated on him with the world's most boring woman. Seriously, I really hated that chick. She was unbelievably bland; she made Katie Brown look dynamic. I never thought I'd say this, but can we bring back Chaya? Chaya could totally kick her stupid psychic ass.

Furthermore, I just have a big problem with the idea of Ascension in general. It's stupid--what the point of that kind of existence? John started to make these points, but the effect of what he was saying was kind of weakened by the fact that the Village of the Dull did get to go off and be all glowy. I would have much preferred if John had fulfilled his capacity as The One by introducing them all to drunken revelry, deviant sex, and general debauchery. That's the true path to Ascension!

However, I did like John Sheppard, World's Worst Meditator (is that a word?). Though I'm still confused as to why he had to spend the whole episode dressed like the lovechild of Luke Skywalker and Legolas. Or why he couldn't have just shaved the damn beard if he hated it so much--clearly Brother Who Looks Like Brendan Fraser's Ugly Cousin had access to proper shaving accoutrements so he could maintain that fugly goatee of his. Perhaps the beard was meant to be a physical manifestation of Sheppard's manly pain?

Anyway, I'm now even more convinced that the Ancients are EVIL, or at least not all shiny holy whatever. The source of the virus in "Hot Zone," Chaya's weird behavior, and just the fact that the Ancients created all those "inferior copies" of themselves and then left them with dubious technology and a few happy "Sure, worship us as gods!" scrawls? Yeeeaaaaah. Up to no good, I say. I can't wait for Rodney to prove it. Prove it, Rodney! Also, call John on the whole "I was there six months and I waited till, like, month five to sleep with boring chick. But I'm totally heterosexual! Look, I have a beard!" thing. (Yes, that is a thing. Okay, maybe several things. Whatever.)

Okay, complaining done. (For now--*ominous laughter*) Now bring on the fic where:

1. John and Rodney go through together, as a flimsy but still appreciated excuse for Sex in a Cave;
2. Rodney goes through and yells at everyone in the Village of Stupid until they run screaming into the woods and get eaten by the bad special effect;
or 3. The Ancient time-displacement area is actually the island on Lost. Come on, it's the SAME FRICKIN' MONSTER, people! All you need is a polar bear and the crossover is complete!

Comments

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

Elizabeth won't even sit next to him! (What was up with that?
I don't get it either! I mean, she's not even joking or anything. I'd be hurt.

She was unbelievably bland
You have no idea how much that bothers me. Why should Sheppard be attracted to her? Seriously, why can't we get someone like Allina? She was cute.

It's stupid--
It's not stupid, it's just beyond our understanding. ;)

The village made me think of...Bhagwan's ashram? My brain is weird.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

I mean, she's not even joking or anything

Exactly! It was weird. It actually got a giggle out of me--mostly because Rodney is just so cute--but then I realized that it was the exact same kind of laugh I force out when (ahh, if only I could say if) the same sort of thing happens to me. Like, "I'm going to try to be a good sport about the fact that you clearly think I'm a loser." Why? Elizabeth usually seems like she at least respects Rodney--it's one of the few things I like about her--so why the sudden shift? Did he come on to her when he was on the enzyme and we just weren't privy to the conversation? ;-)

Why should Sheppard be attracted to her? Seriously, why can't we get someone like Allina? She was cute.

She was! And with Chaya, I believed that John felt a connection to her Ancientness or whatever. (And yeah, she was also kind of hot.) But this lady...ugh. If there have to be space bimbos, can't they at least be space bimbos with personality? Honestly, it does not take much to give a character even a little personality. (Which is my modest, whiny way of saying: I liked my OFC better, waah. *g*)

It's not stupid, it's just beyond our understanding. ;)

Heh. Yeah, it's logic like that that brings out the Rodneyesque levels of sarcasm in all of us. I SO want the episode where he kicks some Ancient ass. Or even better: outsmarts an Ancient. Just pummels it with logic and invective until its brain ruptures--kinda like the Fembots in Austin Powers. *vbeg*

The village made me think of...Bhagwan's ashram?

Quoi?

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

Did he come on to her when he was on the enzyme and we just weren't privy to the conversation?
*blinks* You scare me.

I liked my OFC better, waah
You're not the only one, even though I wanthershoesnowdammit!

Bhagwan was the leader of a sect in the...1970's, I think. He founded this commune in India where everyone was wearing shades of red. When I saw the villagers' gaily coloured clothing and their stoned looks, I thought: Wait a second. This reminds me of something.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

You scare me.

*nods* I scare me, too.

But it could have happened! He was really stoned--and it's a better explanation than "That morning, John woke up straight and Elizabeth woke up a bitch."

You're not the only one, even though I wanthershoesnowdammit!

Aww. You can have them! You are now the official owner of Beryl's fictional shoes. *g*

When I saw the villagers' gaily coloured clothing and their stoned looks, I thought: Wait a second. This reminds me of something.

Heh. I was thinking Hare Krishna--or maybe Heaven's Gate? "Yes, just drink this Kool-Aid and you'll Ascend straight away!" Oh, and I am so going to Tasteless Joke Hell...

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

I was thinking Hare Krishna Works beautifully, too.

You...you gave me shoes. Shoes. I don't care if they're fictional or not, I'll be your bitch forever. ;)

[coreopsis.livejournal.com]

Yeah but your OFC was better. *g*

The sitting thing, I didn't even notice. But if I had, I'd have written it off to her either not wanting to get dirty or being too nervous to sit. But I'm in some strange 'hey, maybe Weir isn't all that bad' haze and so can't really be held accountable for whatever nonsense I come up with that keeps me from hating her again.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

Yeah but your OFC was better.

Aww, thank you! *happy bounce*

The sitting thing, I didn't even notice.

The thing is, she does go sit--just not next to him! He pats the ground beside him (not in a flirty way or anything--comrade-like) and she just sort of shakes her head and sits elsewhere. And Rodney makes a little woobie "Oh" sound and...why is everyone so mean to my boyfriend??? Honestly!

I'm in some strange 'hey, maybe Weir isn't all that bad' haze

Well, I tend to be in a permanent "Yawn, Weir" phase--so congrats to the writers for getting me to sit up and pay attention? Only not.

[coreopsis.livejournal.com]

I didn't even notice that! What a bitch! (her, I mean, not me) Now, I could blame it on the fact that the cave was so dark I could barely see anything or I could go with how I was so anxious for them to actually do something that nothing else mattered. Or better yet, I could blame it on Sheppard's beard, even though it wasn't in that scene. It may have caused permanent damage to my eyes. heh.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

No, you are a bitch for not noticing. A total BE-YOTCH. Or else I'm just desperate for an excuse to say "be-yotch."

better yet, I could blame it on Sheppard's beard

*chokes on tea*

OMGyes! Everything is the fault of the beard! And now we need fic where Sheppard comes back to Atlantis, and suddenly nothing works, and, like, pictures hang crooked when he walks by, and the city doesn't love him anymore. And it's ALL THE BEARD'S FAULT!

[coreopsis.livejournal.com]

You should write that. *g*

[tovalentin.livejournal.com]

I could blame it on Sheppard's beard

When I first read this, I thought you were talking about Teeny. Or whatever her name was...

[coreopsis.livejournal.com]

That works too. ;)

[lamardeuse.livejournal.com]

Though I'm still confused as to why he had to spend the whole episode dressed like the lovechild of Luke Skywalker and Legolas. Or why he couldn't have just shaved the damn beard if he hated it so much--clearly Brother Who Looks Like Brendan Fraser's Ugly Cousin had access to proper shaving accoutrements so he could maintain that fugly goatee of his. Perhaps the beard was meant to be a physical manifestation of Sheppard's manly pain?

I am laughing so hard right now. Thank you.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

You're welcome! I snark because I can. CARE! I mean "care." ;-)

[ladyflowdi.livejournal.com]

I had this thought while reading your comment about Elizabeth -- do you think that her stand-offishness is still a throwback to Trinity? And for that matter, is everyone's complete lack of caring over his selfless acts (two episodes in a row!!) for other people because they think he's trying to atone for blowing up half a solar system?

And then, of course, the indignant anger, cause HELLO, Carson killed half a population on a planet with a drug he created, and Shep woke up the Wraith. If all this bad treatment of Rodney is because of Trinity, wow do they all need to get over themselves.

Oh man. ::hurts for him::

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

Oh God, I hope not. Because honestly? EVERYONE messes up; that's one of the things I like(d?) about this show--everyone is a screw-up and a hero, and the two are not mutually exclusive. Then I think about Rodney saying, "It wasn't Sheppard's fault, it was mine," and...ow. I think there's a good chance he might still be blaming himself, too.

I can't take this again--the "My Favorite Character's Good Deeds Will Forever Be Unacknowledged" thing. I come from Buffydom, I was a Spike fan--that's a painful road I have already walked. And yet here I am, pining for "38 Minutes" and Elizabeth's "Good work, Rodney."

[ladyflowdi.livejournal.com]

I second that 'hope not', cause... yeah. So with you on the Spike thing. I'll be really, really pissed if it turns into another situation like that, where the "villian" never gets the credit he deserves. I'll just have to write the fanboys who do this show and give them a piece of my mind.

At the same time, I wonder if its everyone just figuring Rodney congratulates himself enough, and they don't need to add to the ego. I think maybe its just us fangirls who realize what an emotionally screwed up person Rodney is. I mean, there's a REASON he's always bragging, and eating, and bragging while eating.

::sad sigh::

[kalikahuntress.livejournal.com]

Elizabeth won't even sit next to him! (What was up with that? I mean ha ha, but you've got to know that Rodney takes shit like that to heart--he'd never acknowledge it, but he does.) Not to mention that his boyfriend cheated on him with the world's most boring woman.

Poor Rodney and i want to slap Elizabeth again, i mean seriously that was a total bitch moment even though i liked her in the rest of the episode.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

One of the (sadly few) things I've always liked about Elizabeth was that she's been fair to Rodney since the beginning--she clearly respected him, knew him well enough not to be freaked by the, erm, louder aspects of his personality. That he in turn respected her has been one of the few things that sold me on "Elizabeth the Leader" when all her dramatic speeches and raised eyebrows fell flat. So what's with the sudden juvenile bitchiness?

She caught John and Rodney making out, didn't she? Jealousy is not flattering, Liz!

[kalikahuntress.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, you know what, my interpretation of that scene doesn't jive with the rest of the episode. She and McKay were getting along really well before and after that scene so i think Elizabeth just thought he meant sit down, not sit down by me. It makes more sense actually.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

OH GOD CANNOT STOP LAUGHING AT YOUR POST.

*beams* Then my lame-o angst about a TV show is WORTH IT. Seriously, when I am sad for Rodney, it keeps me up nights. That can't be good...

John was so like: Maybe she will be more interesting if she is naked. ::next morning:: Okay, not so much.

YES. Or: If we are having sex, she'll stop talking! Or: If I sex her, she will have to take off that hideous outfit! Or: I must bed her, because Brendan Fraser's Ugly Cousin said he'd only lend me his razor if I get her out of his (chin)hair! Or... *fanwanks this seven ways from Sunday*

I do not like stupid!John. I figure he was too distracted by abandonment issues to use his brain properly

Thank you--that's what was bothering me about him in this episode (er, that and the beard) and I couldn't put my finger on it. He was really annoyingly clueless, wasn't he? (And damn, I really can't say that word without hearing Alica Silverstone in my head. Huh.) And, okay, I get that he was stuck in a cave for a while, but isn't he usually a lot more proactive? I mean, in "Hot Zone" he couldn't stay put in a gym for a couple of hours, but put him in Hippieville and he doesn't even try to find another way out? Maybe the elf boots were constricting his brain feet.

Also, we're going to totally pretend I hadn't forgotten that about lightning.

But yes: Rodney was fabulous. Unfortunately (unless they faded to black right before the big group orgy hug) we're the only ones giving him credit for it. *prickles with the injustice of it all*

[sinensiss.livejournal.com]

it's the SAME FRICKIN' MONSTER, people!

ahaha--oh, so true, right down to the sound effects. And "I'm totally heterosexual! Look, I have a beard!" is my new favorite phrase.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

The sound effects really put me over the edge. That and the mysteriously swaying foliage.

I seriously can't believe that there hasn't been an SGA/Lost crossover yet--Flight 815 obviously got pulled through a rift in the space-time continuum, and The Island is obviously a planet in the Pegasus Galaxy, and The Hatch was obviously built by the Ancients. Not to mention that the world needs a Sheppard/Shephard confrontation like, now.

"I'm totally heterosexual! Look, I have a beard!" is my new favorite phrase.

*g* Now if only I could make icons...

[kuwdora.livejournal.com]

Not to mention that the world needs a Sheppard/Shephard confrontation like, now.

Oh, to behold the hottness between them.... my knees are weak just thinking about it.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

She's like a stoned yoga teacher who overdid the Botox

So. True. Especially the Botox part--did her face ever move? Maybe it's a side effect of almost-Ascension. ;-)

I loved Rodney's "What is it with you and Ancient women?"

Oh, and Shep's little shrug! Yeah, that was good. *g*

[soupytwist.livejournal.com]

(random interjection! hi! :))

John totally has a beard to illustrate his man pain; I just wait for the day that Rodney proves the evilness of the Ancients was actually masterminded by John's facial hair, and the whole lot gets eaten by the bad special effect. Cause, damn.

I'm so amused by how much I agree with you, right down to the island being infested by OMGWTFPOLARBEARs - please, write the Lost crossover? :)

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

Hiiiiiiii! [/Crowley]

I just wait for the day that Rodney proves the evilness of the Ancients was actually masterminded by John's facial hair

So, wait--you're saying that John's beard is evil? Evil mastermind-evil? That maybe it whispers to him--sweetly, in the dark--and gives him ideas? Hmm. I could work with that... *is totally NOT plotting crack!fic based on this*

please, write the Lost crossover?

Shit, now I actually AM plotting crack!fic. Damn you! *shakes fist*

[sweetvalleyslut.livejournal.com]

I went back and rewatched to see the sitting thing, and oh, Rodney. And Weir was so cool in the rest of this episode, with her geeking out over language and being reasonably proactive for once! Sigh. I don't even know how that was supposed to be funny: does Rodney smell? It just seems like an unnecessary snub, otherwise.

And yes, the Ancients are so evil. I kind of wish they'd go that direction on the show a little more, because it'd be way more interesting if these perfect, godlike "ancestors" were actually psychotic mad scientists, or drunken partiers, or rogue dentists or ANYTHING other than what they seem to be, which is boring.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

I don't even know how that was supposed to be funny: does Rodney smell? It just seems like an unnecessary snub, otherwise.

I think Rodney makes for the easy butt of an easy joke, and sometimes, the writers are lazy. We're probably expected not to read too much into it. (But we're fans! That's what we do! *g*)

I still hold out hope (based mostly around "Hot Zone," admittedly) that the Ancients are, if not evil, than at least as flawed as humans--and scary, powerful humans at that. Either way, I'm gonna keep writing them like that, because the alternative is...what was the word you used? Oh yes, BORING. ;-)

[toniabarone.livejournal.com]

*stares at fic plot #3* Damn. Yer right. Okay, yeah, Lost flashed in my head when the noises first started and John's pathetic "Eat me or I'll eat you" thing. But. Damn. Huh.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

This crossover NEEDS to be written. Unfortunately, I'm starting to feel like it needs to be written by me. ;-)

[vardoger.livejournal.com]

"Brother Who Looks Like Brendan Fraser's Ugly Cousin"

Oh, my god, I'm not the only one who had that thought! Rock.

[klo-the-hobbit.livejournal.com]

Wasn't he random Friar guy (Simon? maybe?) from the SG1 episode with the demon and the going to drill the girls skull open that I can't remember the name of?
The little dab of hair under his lip had me giggling madly every time he appeard on screen. Hilarity indeed.
*klo*

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

No, clearly that have the same hairdresser: Bad Bowl-Cuts 'R Us. *g*

Ugly Cousin lacked Brendan's bumbling charm, however...

[vardoger.livejournal.com]

Yeah, only Ugly Cousin got him on a bad day: bad bowl cut AND obnoxious chin fuzz.

And you're right about the charm. I'm pretty sure Brendan Fraser would never subject me to irritating lectures on spiritual enlightenment.

[kiarasayre.livejournal.com]

I came here by one of the (many) SGA LJ newsletters, and I just had to say--I kept yelling for John to go find the hatch, or at least try to avoid beached 18th-century slaveships, as he would get Arzt on him.

*cough*

'm done now.

[the-green-sheep.livejournal.com]

Though I'm still confused as to why he had to spend the whole episode dressed like the lovechild of Luke Skywalker and Legolas.

Oh, God, mental image, mental image! Sheeesh.

But you do say Right Things. Muchly.

And do bring on the fic, people, please. *waits with you*