Not Getting It, part 45,001

[trinityofone]

Remember this?

If you’re one of those fruity guys still wearing sandals on the trail…

Just got comments back on my edit. The exchange:

something less homophobic, maybe? dorky, drippy, dippy, weird, odd... --Trin

nope - fruity it is and fruity it shall stay. - ch

Fruity is not gay in this refrence--ok as is.--John

Excuse me for a moment.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong with you people? Must you be WILLFULLY so ignorant, closed-minded, and douchey? I was having a perfectly fine morning, enjoying my tea and my poppyseed muffin, and now I want to stab things. I want to like you guys! Don't make it harder for me to do so than it is for me to continue to like Supernatural! You are not as hot as Jensen Ackles and thus have less leeway! TRIN SMASH!

Okay, I'm done.

Comments

[lilac-way.livejournal.com]

You should ask if "fruity is not gay in this reference," then WHAT IS IT?

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

The opposite of vegetabley. You have to be vegetabley to succeed at off-roading. Duh.

[anatsuno.livejournal.com]

i was wondering if it was implying something like 'crazy as a fruitbat?' or loopy, like mad as a fruitloop? but these seem reaching... *explorating furriner*

[mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com]

What lilac_way said. Because my dictionary gives only five meanings for "fruity":

1. resembling fruit; having the taste or smell of fruit.
2. rich in flavor; pungent.
3. excessively sweet or mellifluous; cloying; syrupy: a specialist in fruity prose; to read poetry in a fruity voice.
4. Slang. insane; crazy.
5. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. homosexual.

I suppose #4 is a possibility, but I think we all know what is really meant. SMASH 'EM AGAIN, TRIN!

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

You see, the problem here is that you are expecting them to respond to logic. They could be faced with Mr. Spock and they would still be like, "Whatever, dude."

:(

[anatsuno.livejournal.com]

oh! so I was not crazy thinking it did mean crazy also *relieved*
I shoulda checked my dictionary.

[lillian13.livejournal.com]

Sounds like you should send them those dictionary definitions and let them pick out the one they want to use. :-)

Whatta buncha maroons. (Bugs Bunny voice off)

I mean, I used to edit RPGs back in the day, and they didn't get this bad.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

Maybe I should just hit them over the head with a dictionary? A large, hardcover one.

[cereta.livejournal.com]

You know, you might consider tell them that when Lewis Carroll created the Humpty Dumpty school of linguistics (http://www.sabian.org/Alice/lgchap06.htm), he was being satirical.

[lamardeuse.livejournal.com]

WTF, Trin? Everybody knows pansies don't read car magazines, so what's the beef? As long as they don't start pissing off those dykes - you know, they love fucking each other on the hoods of Camaros, man. At least they do in all the porn I watch.

And before you get all riled up, PANSIES = AN INOFFENSIVE WILDFLOWER. SUCK IT UP.

[trinityofone.livejournal.com]

ahahahahaha. I <3 this comment. :)

[lamardeuse.livejournal.com]

You have made me thinky. (http://lamardeuse.livejournal.com/494717.html) I hate that on a Tuesday. :D

[sweetvalleyslut.livejournal.com]

Ugh, what dickheads. Kudos to you for trying to stop them, though!

[sol-se.livejournal.com]

I don't know if you want to get into it with them, but you might want to challenge them on:

Fruity is not gay in this refrence

By asking what it means, if not gay.

Also: ARGH SMASH

[mf_luder_xf]

Hmmm. Wow. I'd definitely ask what the hell they think it means then. Because according to them my dad would be fruity. And wow, could that not be farthest thing from the truth. He is definitely a dork, though.

I suspect they believe they're using it not as meaning "homosexual" but as "metrosexual". Aka: has taste. Because men who are into cars should always like Ford F-150's (or something else grotesquely overcompensatory for suburban males). And to that idea, I would say, guess who actually spends the most money on cars? That would be those corporate bigwigs who dress in Gucci and wear Armani shades and you might not want to piss them off.

[sonofzeal.livejournal.com]

Ugh. As a man who's into cars, let me straight up say that any vehicle taller than five feet is a commercial vehicle, and should only be used when neccisary. The thought of being enthusiastic about driving a vehicle that is slow, dangerous, and can't handle or break worth a damn (and is no more capable of anything practical as a result of being outright inferior in every practical measure) is completely foreign to me as someone who enjoys driving.

[graycastle.livejournal.com]

okay, what you did here was, you forgot that those copy writers have the ability to control what their words mean! If they're using fruity in a non-gay way, then it's not insulting and doesn't encourage the masculine-vs-homosexual false dichotomy. It's not gay in this reference, Trin!

It's like when my friends do something lame and I tell them they're acting SO GAY. I don't mean it to mean homosexual, I just mean that they suck! I mean . . . that they blow! I mean . . . that they're lame. So it's not homophobic or heterosexist then.

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

...hoo boy. I've just smashed into the language barrier. I'd never think of fruity as gay unless people were dropping anvils - it tends to be 'weird, and a bit fey, but not necessarily gay'. It's like the time I described someone's suit as 'oooo, very swish' and they were american and thought I meant gay rather than 'natty, well cut and fashionable with just a hint of expensive'.

[dovil.livejournal.com]

You should call them a douchebag, because in the reference you're making it doesn't mean a complete moronic idiot made of fail.

[aphelant.livejournal.com]

o_O

Hm... Maybe they need it explained to them that it doesn't matter if 'fruity' is or is not intentionally being used as a homophobic slur, the fact that it can/is likely to be interpreted as one means it needs to go, especially since there are many other words they can choose instead that don't hold the same connotations. I mean, it probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot? (I suggest using small words)