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Okay, so here it is. I'm very nervous about posting this, because I don't think that, given the time and length constraints, I was really able to do the topic justice--but then, I'm not sure if, had I world enough and time, I would be able to do the topic justice. So really, if you want a fuller picture, and one unmuddled by my own interpretations, I recommend that you go look at the responses to my original post: that's where the truth wealth of information lies. (And to those of you who responded, but have not yet gotten responses from me: I'm getting to you, I really am, but I had to take a break to, y'know, write the paper. *g*)

However, here's what I came up with. I had to address the prompt Given your experience of this course, write an essay on why you think formulaic writing is so popular, and thus my thesis by necessity moved in that direction. There are so many angles that could have been explored, however; one of us needs to write a book about this. Really.

Huge thanks to [livejournal.com profile] taelonmahal, [livejournal.com profile] kalpurna, [livejournal.com profile] refracting, and [livejournal.com profile] plainsong_x, who looked this over and offered support and encouragement; and most especially to [livejournal.com profile] mciac, who rescued the paper from the land of long-windedness and no-sense-making, and who saved me from a nervous breakdown. Your help was invaluable.

Finally, thank you to everyone who responded to the original post: you all had many more intelligent and insightful things to say than I do. (And in case the people I quoted are wondering, yes, I did use whatever alternate names you gave me in the paper itself, but I switched back to LJ names here, 'cause LJ! Linky! Fun! If you want me to change yours back, please let me know.)

So without any further ado:

Why We Slash

Sixty-one thousand, two hundred and fifty-two. Since entering the Stargate: Atlantis fandom in August of this year, that is the number of words I have written in order to make the show’s two male protagonists, Lieutenant Colonel John Sheppard and Doctor Rodney McKay, come together. I was going to say—it would be simpler to say—“have sex,” but over the course of those 17 stories and 61,252 words1, sex does not always occur, and is not, I would like to think, the primary objective. But if slash is not just about sex—not just about the “huge rutting jizz-drenched scrum[s]” that Poppy Z. Brite decries2—then we must consider other explanations for its popularity and proliferation. Why am I writing and reading slash, and why are so many other women doing the same?

Slash fiction has been thoroughly discussed by sociologists, feminist theorists, media studies specialists, and even the mainstream media itself. It has also been discussed by the fans—extensively, and true to fannish nature, obsessively. As Shoshanna Green, Cynthia Jenkins, and Henry Jenkins explain in their article, “Normal Female Interest in Men Bonking,” the two groups differ considerably in their approach. “Academic accounts have tended to be univocal in their explanations of why fans read and write slash, looking for a theory which can account for the phenomenon as a whole,” they write. “Slash fans, on the other hand, are interested in exploring the multiple and differing motivations that led them to this genre.”3 What this paper will try to do is bridge that gap between outside observer and inside participant by focusing on two aspects of the phenomenon: first I will explore why fans produce and consume slash, then I will look at its reliance on (and subversion of) formulaic writing. I am both an academic and a fan, but unlike Constance Penley, I am offering no disclaimer for my fannish involvement: I am not, like her, “one of the academic fans”4 (read: as opposed to a real one), but rather a slasher who just happens to be an academic. I am not asking “Why do people slash?” but “Why do we slash?” The question is significant because the reasons we slash influence the stories we write and read, as well as the formulae, on the one hand, that we employ to make our characters and stories recognizable, and, on the other hand, that we subvert in order to inject creativity and originality into the universe.

The reasons why fans produce and consume fanfiction are numerous. Explains one fan, [livejournal.com profile] jarsy: “Why does anyone read any book, or watch any show or movie? ...For me it really is about escapism.”5 On the most basic level, fanfiction, like mainstream fiction, movies, and television, is about entertainment: finding characters you relate to, travelling to exciting new places with them, living in their worlds for a while. But every movie, every book, every TV series, eventually stops: it has a definitive end. That’s where fanfiction comes in: “Fanfic in general is all about getting more of the canon I love,” says another fan, [livejournal.com profile] soupytwist. “I'm a total whore that way; when I like something, I want more.”6

More>, however, should not be confused with more of the same. Fan readers and writers see fanfiction not only as a way to say inside a beloved but closed world, but as a way to push the boundaries of that world, to open it up. In her essay, “Why Read? Why Write?” [livejournal.com profile] mirabile_dictu concludes, “I realize now that I was looking not so much for more, but for better.”7 Better, like more, can be interpreted in a number of different ways. Some fans want to see an existing aspect of the source universe expanded upon—for example, minor characters that they “wish to see...given adventures/elaboration of their own.”8 Others see fanfiction as an opportunity for “fixing bad characterisation, or explaining something bizarre that a character’s done that seems very OOC [out of character]”9; for, in other words, correcting perceived problems with the source material, or “retconing.” And still others, perhaps the largest group, want sex.

To be perfectly fair, however, what this largest group of ficcers really wants is more romance. While a significant portion of fanfiction is, as Joanna Russ memorably described it, “pornography written 100% by women for a 100% female readership,”10 Jenkins acknowledges in his book “Textual Poachers” that “sexually explicit sequences often constitute only a small section of lengthy and complex narratives.”11 Furthermore, the fans I spoke to again and again stressed the importance of the emotional aspect of romantic or ‘shipper fic12. “Ideally,” explains [livejournal.com profile] devon, “a story will combine character development, romance, and attractive people having sex with each other. I derive more intellectual stimulation and satisfaction from character-oriented fiction...I derive more erotic satisfaction from smut. I am a multi-faceted person with many needs.”13

A good ‘shipper fic will combine those needs, while at the same time giving the reader or writer “something,” says [livejournal.com profile] jarsy, “I can’t get from the primary texts...be it groininess or the depth of character and emotion you wouldn't otherwise see.”14 Thus the logical question at this point might become: “If you want a romance, why go to the trouble of adding it to a text when plenty of texts exist with the romance, part, parcel, and indeed purpose of whole endeavour?” In her essay “Fanfic as a Shortcut to Romance,” [livejournal.com profile] fairestcat explains, “The problem I had was that the romance characters really didn’t feel alive to me outside the romance plot[;] if you took out the romantic element they were no longer compelling or terribly interesting to read about. I find that I have this problem a lot, not just with books billed as romances but with mainstream chick lit...I can’t care about the romance of the characters if I can't care about the characters’ non-romantic lives.”15

With fanfiction, on the other hand, there’s built-in interest in the characters. “You already know [them], and you’re already emotionally invested in them,” says [livejournal.com profile] grey_bard, “taking care of two of the biggest hurdles without any effort on the [fanfic] author’s part,” and thus leaving her free to work on adding emotional depth—or hot sex. “As long as the writer can keep the voices and actions sufficiently in character that you can recognise them as the fictional people you have come to like,” continues [livejournal.com profile] grey_bard, “everything is automatically five times hotter than it would be with no name sexbot characters.”16

Romantic fiction, be it mainstream or fan-generated, is almost inevitably formulaic, as its main objective, despite whatever creative obstacles the writer uses to muddle the path, is to get Character A and Character B into Place C (bed). Fanfic does not shy away from this; in fact, there’s a whole genre of stories that promise a very specific type of happy ending and little else: PWP, which stands for “Porn Without Plot” or “Plot, What Plot?” Yet fandom is full of people who would back up [livejournal.com profile] cimorene111 in her assertion that “romance, sensuality and erotica have reached a higher evolution in (the good parts of) slash than they have in any mainstream literature.”17 Romantic fanfic, unlike romance novels or chicklit, “is the only sexual fantasy by women for women that’s produced without the control or interposition of censorship by commercial booksellers or the interposition of political intent by writers or editors,”18 says Russ. Unlike mainstream media, where “viewers and readers often know the alternatives for the romantic relationships they watch are either [an] endless loop of thwarted desire, or third rate high school style dreadful melodramatic romance...in really good romantic and relationship fic,” says [livejournal.com profile] grey_bard, “fic readers and writers can find satisfying interesting stories wherein everyone stays in character, plot is had, and yet romantic relationships are also explored.”19

Slash takes this need for more and better romantic fiction one step further—in several different directions. First, slash stories—stories where the central, driving romantic relationship is between two men20—allow women to cast off the baggage that is inherently part of their “twentieth-century” (now twenty-first) bodies—and, I would argue, the societal roles into which those bodies are forced. Penley catalogues some of the things that inevitably weigh on the female consciousness, distorting or limiting a traditional romance: “bodies that are a legal, moral, and religious battleground, that are the site of contraceptive failure, that are seen to pose the greatest potential danger to the fetuses they house, that are held to painfully higher standards of physical beauty than those of the other sex.”21 Slash, however, allows women the freedom to leave all that behind by transferring women’s fantasies to male bodies.

But that’s not all it does. Lest we become too clinical, or too dry and academic, let us not forget that there’s also a much simpler reason why women—straight, gay, and bi22—like m/m slash: “slash is hot,” says [livejournal.com profile] devon23.

Says [livejournal.com profile] lay_of_luthien: “1 male pretty<2 males hot.”24

Says [livejournal.com profile] _minxy_: “If one hot guy is good, two hot guys are better.”25

Says [livejournal.com profile] twistinside82: “Two guys together? Hot. Two good looking guys together? Hotter. Two supposedly-straight men getting together because they just can't deny their attraction? YES PLEASE.”26

Just as it seems easier for those on the outside to “normalise” (or rationalise) slash by erroneously attributing it to only straight women, so too is it possible to over-think and over-politicise an activity that is, at its core, very focused on porn. “I think slash is much more a ‘movement’ for some people,” says [livejournal.com profile] plainsong_x. “I’ve definitely entered into debates with people that ended with me backing out going ‘woah, woah, you put way more thought into this than I do.’ I know to a lot of people it’s all tied in with queer rights and women’s rights and probably things like freedom of speech...I'm sort of ‘get your politics out of my porno, plzthx.’”27 Smothering slash in political meanings could be seen as a way for men (and other women, non-slashers) to distance themselves from such a raw display of female sexuality (a statement which of course carries political weight of its own). But whether political or pornographic—or more likely, a combination of both—“slash fandom...doesn’t devalue the things that women find sexy, emotionally or physically,”28 says [livejournal.com profile] ceciliaregent. Thus slash works on a multitude of levels. Explains [livejournal.com profile] ajora: “I think, for most people, it’s different. For girls, it’s empowering to see equal footings in relationships...And, for some of us, it’s reassurance that there’s nothing wrong with being gay.”29

And across all those levels exists slash’s emotional core. Slash allows women to connect to a type of sexual desire that would otherwise be considered taboo—that is titillating in part because a homosexual relationship between two (often canonically straight) men is “one of the few remaining reliable and efficient ways to introduce a big barrier of taboo and element of the forbidden into a romance”30; moreover, it allows them to express this desire explicitly, to describe it in detail and with words both emotionally and physically charged—cock, fuck, penetrate, come. In doing so, all possible barriers are ripped away, leaving “the emotional connection, the love...completely undiluted,” says [livejournal.com profile] kalpurna. “In romance novels or het, there are prescribed gender roles and tropes that are easily recognisable, and we’re expected to identify ourselves with the heroine. It’s basically safe. In slash, though, nothing is safe. There’s nothing to hide behind, sexually, and in terms of identity. Everything is stripped away except the characters and their interaction, and what is left is something which inspires love.”31

This makes slash sound radical and revolutionary, and in some ways—and until both homosexuality and freedom of female sexual expression find secure places in our society—it is. So why, then, does slash as a genre embrace almost as many tropes as it throws off? Jenkins claims that nearly every slash story moves through a standard four-part structure—(1) The Initial Relationship, (2) Masculine Dystopia, (3) Confession, (4) Masculine Utopia32—and while the scope of slash fandom has broadened with the eager embrace of the internet and the plethora of new original sources for slash33 so as to make such a simple breakdown difficult—even ludicrous—to apply, there is undeniably a formulaic feel to a lot of slash writing. Some writers and readers bemoan the wealth of “cliché fic”; others enjoy it, even embrace it. It becomes a kind of game to see how certain clichés can be subverted (a subversion of the subversion—and some people claim that fic isn’t deep!), or even how many stories with different versions of the same plot device can be told. In the Atlantis fandom, for example, there’s an entire site devoted to indexing fics by theme. The McKay/Sheppard Thematic Fic Index introduces itself with these words: “In any fandom (and, sometimes, cross-fandoms) some fic themes repeat themselves. They’re fan favourites because they strike a chord or because they’re fun. Some people love them, some others can’t stand them. This page is an index of those fics.”34 Some of the most popular tropes include Alternate Universe stories, stories involving ESP or other superpowers, and that well-loved classic, Aliens Made Them Do It.

How do you reconcile the aspects of slash that are radically tearing down sexual barriers and embracing taboos with the parts that repeatedly—even joyously—employ the same formulaic story points to get the characters into the situations where such things become possible? Penley claims that K/Sers (old school Kirk/Spock slashers—and, by extension, all slashers) have a “penchant for ‘making do’: when asked why they don’t create original characters”—and again, by extension, original scenarios—“they most often respond that they are just ‘working with what’s out there.’”35 However, in my experience, if there’s anything fandom and fanfiction writers possess in spades, it’s creativity. (When you’ve seen a blow job described in as many different ways as I have, you’ll be forced to agree). No, fanfic writers aren’t “just ‘working with what’s out there’” when they give a character amnesia, or telepathy, or even—yes—wings: they’re working with what they like. Just as working within a pre-established universe is comforting because “the characters are established, recognisable, and dependable,”36 so too is it a comfort to work and re-work the same proven scenarios, both to recapture the pleasure of reading a certain type of story for the first time (the wonder of discovering your first slash fic), and to see if something that seems tired can be renewed and revitalised in the right hands (tearing down the conventional romance novel).

Furthermore, since fanfiction is, at its core, an active, participatory hobby—“the fan community tends to assume that everyone can write and that some people simply haven’t done so (yet),”37—that pair of revitalising hands could just as easily be yours as anybody else’s. “I get...pleasure from writing, because I get to create the experience for the characters, and throw in the wrenches that I would like to see, and in the process, I get to create a story that I think other people will enjoy reading,”38 says [livejournal.com profile] kelex, with her repeat use of create emphasising how hands-on fandom can be. Every reader, every writer, is in control, is firmly in the driver’s seat with both hands on the wheel. And where do we choose to take ourselves? Both everywhere and nowhere. Fanfiction, says [livejournal.com profile] stakebait, has “a ‘road not taken’ sense of infinite branching possibilities in the fictional universe, instead of one linear narrative...[It’s] a bunch of tiny self-contained worlds like so many soap bubbles—we can resolve each relationship a thousand times and still have the baseline yearning of canon to come back to.”39

“Why do we slash?” I think it’s that “baseline yearning of canon” mixed in with our own private yearnings. Yearnings to be loved, to be accepted, as equals; yearnings to have really fantastically hot sex outside or beyond the limitations of our physical bodies; yearnings to see the people—and yes, the characters—we love find happiness, because it makes us happy, and helps us to hope. Thus the formulaic nature of slash is a sort of eternal optimism, a belief that even if things didn’t work out before the screen’s final fade to black, they can still get there—we can take them there. And then we can do it again. And again. And again.

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1. [livejournal.com profile] trinityofone, Control Freaks in Love.
2. Poppy Z. Brite in Elanor Toland, Fan Nine from Outer Space, at Salient.
3. Shoshanna Green, Cynthia Jenkins, and Henry Jenkins, Normal Female Interest in Male Bonking: Selections from the Terra Nostra Underground and Strange Bedfellows, at MIT: Henry Jenkins.
4. Constance Penley, NASA/TREK: Popular Science and Sex in America (New York: 1997), p. 101.
5. [livejournal.com profile] jarsy, here.
6. [livejournal.com profile] soupytwist, here.
7. [livejournal.com profile] mirabile_dictu, Why Read? Why Write?.
8. [livejournal.com profile] galadhir, here.
9. [livejournal.com profile] kelex, here.
10. Joanna Russ, “Pornography By Women For Women, With Love,” Magic Mommas, Trembling Sisters, Puritans and Perverts: Feminist Essays (Trumansburg: 1985), pp. 79-99, at totse.com.
11. Henry Jenkins, Textual Poachers (New York: 1992), p. 190.
12. Many terms in fandom have a multitude of meanings; for the purpose of this essay and the sanity of all involved, I am defining “‘shipper fic” (from “relationship fic”) as a story where the romantic coupling of two characters—be it m/f, m/m, or f/f—forms a large part, if not the central focus, of the narrative.
13. [livejournal.com profile] devon, here.
14. [livejournal.com profile] jarsy.
15. [livejournal.com profile] fairestcat, Fanfic as a Shortcut to Romance.
16. [livejournal.com profile] grey_bard, here.
17. [livejournal.com profile] cimorene111, here.
18. Russ.
19. [livejournal.com profile] grey_bard, here.
20. There are also, of course, f/f stories (known as femslash), but they are far less common, and for the purposes of this paper, we will be limiting our discussion to the m/m variety.
21. Penley, p. 126.
22. Green, Jenkins, and Jenkins, as well as my own 1) research specifically for this paper and 2) long-time experience in fandom.
23. [livejournal.com profile] devon.
24. [livejournal.com profile] lay_of_luthien, here.
25. [livejournal.com profile] _minxy_, here.
26. [livejournal.com profile] twistinside82, here.
27. [livejournal.com profile] plainsong_x, here.
28. [livejournal.com profile] ceciliaregent, here.
29. [livejournal.com profile] ajora, here.
30. [livejournal.com profile] cimorene111.
31. [livejournal.com profile] kalpurna, here.
32. Jenkins, Textual Poachers, pp. 206-219.
33. Fanfiction.net, an open-access site where authors, even those with extremely limited technical expertise, can upload their stories for free, lists 505 different fandoms (i.e., individual sources) in the television category alone.
34. [livejournal.com profile] flordeneu, Double Treat: A McKay/Sheppard fansite.
35. Penley, p. 126.
36. [livejournal.com profile] lostakasha, here.
37. Green, Jenkins, and Jenkins.
38. [livejournal.com profile] kelex.
39. [livejournal.com profile] stakebait, here.


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Questions? Comments? Any communities you think might be interested in seeing this? Or, um, any comms where I can never show my face ever, ever again? ;-)

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grey-bard.livejournal.com
Very cool. I hope you tell us how your paper is received!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I will, as soon as I find out. And thanks again for your great contribution to this!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeypants.livejournal.com
sorry i never got to make comments on the paper, i ran out of time. :/ but it looks fabulous!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
That's okay, I know you're swamped with the work of your own fabulous students. But I really wish you'd posted that helpful tip about quoting from the back of the book earlier; I totally would have done that!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com
What grey_bard said. Dude, that made me bask in the greatness of fandom all over again.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you. Reading the responses made me feel that way, too, and I think that, if anything, is what's really incredible here: that fandom is full of so many amazing, cool people. I hope someday somebody will write something that really does them justice.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 08:36 pm (UTC)
ext_1611: Isis statue (head)
From: [identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] slashphilosophy, [livejournal.com profile] virgule.

And damn, that's a lot of words. :-)

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Thanks for the comm links. I may post later; I'm having my habitual second thoughts right now.

And damn, that's a lot of words.

I have no life. I, um, really like to write! A lot. Other people write epics, though. Still haven't done that...
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(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Fanfiction and slash were covered in the course (I have cool professors) which is why I didn't define them, but you're right, I really should have said how I gathered my fan responses--I didn't even think of that, and now of course it seems blazingly obvious. *sigh* I'm not a natural academic at all, which I'm sure is well apparent.

I had to turn the paper in earlier today, and I only received the topic a week ago Tuesday, so I was kind of crunched. BUT this has definitely made me want to continue looking at slash as a topic of academic discourse, so I appreciate your comments so I can do a better job in the future.

Honestly: do you think I say anything worthwhile here at all? A large part of my brain was consumed with just getting it on time so I don't, you know, fail the course, and I really have no perspective on what I actually said (or did not say) anymore.

Anyway, I appreciate your taking this seriously. =)

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-11 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alchemia.livejournal.com
i see you already turned this in so I wont go ito any great detail.
If you do nother such paper like this, I'd suggest you call it "Why WOMEN Slash", unless you make sure to get and discuss why other people would slash as well. The only reference i could find to such group was one person's idea that men might claim some other reason *as a means to* distance themselves from femininity. that might be true for some, but certainly not all and doesn't actually address why other people slash.

I saw your original post/survey and just didnt have the time then to fill it out. I'm not sure you would have used my responses anyway. I couldn't really relate your essay, even though I write slash.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-11 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I would have really liked to discuss why men read/write/like slash, but, besides my very annoying length constraints, there was a significant lack of material on the subject: no real academic writings that I could find, and until two days before the paper was due, no responses from men on my journal. So I'm sorry if it failed in that respect. But I would love to hear why you do write slash--or your opinions on why other people do in general. I don't mean "tell me, right here, right now!"--unless you really want to--but working on this has made me hope that more people (people smarter and better at academic writing than I am) will write more about slash so that there'll be a broader perspective on it in the future.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inthekeyofd.livejournal.com
Whoa, that's a lot of words..and you just got into the fandom in August?? I have to tip my hat to you!

And this is an excellent essay as well!!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Yeah, I scare myself a little...

I'm glad you liked the essay; thanks for reading it!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 09:28 pm (UTC)
darcydodo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darcydodo
Aah, I started looking it over and didn't have time to finish. I can still send you the few comments that I'd already managed, if you like....

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
No, that's okay; I had to turn it in this morning, and I really don't want to think about it anymore. But thank you for what you did. I hope it was at least distracting...?

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 09:49 pm (UTC)
ext_2524: do what you like (sga: just kicking down the cobblestones)
From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com
EEEE!! Love love love! Because I'm a hopeless dork, I just read that out loud to myself, and YAY! You are so very smart, and I'm very very impressed. Thank you for sharing this with us!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomeliza.livejournal.com
Wow, that was absolutely fantastic. My academic writing is completely crap in comparison, not that I'm surprised. You brought up some wonderful points. And what I think is coolest about this is the lack of shame you have in handling the subject and writing about it from a slasher's perspective. It's a real step forward. Brava.

In footnote 20: I believe the term is commonly spelled "femmeslash." I could be wrong, however.

I hope this was as interesting for you to write as it was for us to read!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 10:13 pm (UTC)
wychwood: chess queen against a runestone (Ent - tr profiles)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
Cool essay :) Let us know what your tutors say!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-09 11:48 pm (UTC)
suzy_queue: Animated rain over a rainbow (feelin' that pride)
From: [personal profile] suzy_queue
I think it's a really well developed paper, very well written. Nice job putting it all together. I think it's pretty accurate, in my mind, why I've been slashing for the last 10 years. *g*

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-10 06:04 pm (UTC)
aurora: (Soaring [obaona])
From: [personal profile] aurora
Wow, colour me impressed.

I really liked all the quotes you used. And let us know how it's received, because I'm really curious!

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-11 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shoemaster.livejournal.com
This is really really interesting, and you definitely hit the nail on the head with the 'taboo' thing, I have a friend who is a major slasher and she thrives on the scandal of it all, and one day we were driving around trying to think of the most scandalous pairings possible.

Personally I don't think of slash fic as all that different from het fic (you know, besides the obvious), I just see characters that interact really well with each other, and have great chemistry, gender be damned. But then, I don't really think about it all that much...

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-11 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toft-froggy.livejournal.com
This is a very interesting, well-thought-out paper, and you've managed to get an awful lot into a very short space. I've tried to write something like this in the past and found it phenomenally difficult to fit in everything there was to say, but I think you've done a fantastic job. I really liked your point about people using the suggestion of slash as a political statement to distance others/themselves from the whole gay porn thing. I think you can be fully invested in both aspects of it, though; I'm in slash for all the reasons you say - the wanting more, the romance, the hope, the hot sex - but I also get a kick out of the subversiveness of it, especially in fandoms like SG:A, The Professionals, Starsky and Hutch, concerned with the military or the police. There are these role models for red-blooded heterosexual males, the best that society can come up with, but in a secret (but easily-findable) place, they're what those institutions most fear - queers within their ranks.

Have you read 'The Democratic Genre: Fanfiction in a literary context' by Sheenagh Pugh? You can get it on Amazon. It's a discussion of the literary merits of and reasons for writing fanfiction, focusing specifically on a few smaller, British fandoms, and fanfic vs profic. It's very good, although she doesn't discuss the sexual politics of writing slash so much.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-12-11 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-galadhir.livejournal.com
Well, frankly that's the best essay I've ever read about slash; and it's refreshing that it doesn't have the same 'OMG they're all so wierd!' feel about it that the others have. Definitely saving this one to point people at later if (when) the subject comes up again. Well done!

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Date: 2005-12-11 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting your essay! I also would like to know how it was received. I can't believe how quickly you put this together. Very impressive, especially considering the short turn-around time you had. Do you think you'll pursue this topic in your studies?

Thank you again!

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Date: 2005-12-11 04:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] siria
Oh, excellent. *adds to memories* I'd love to know what DJ will make of it :)

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Date: 2005-12-13 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-green-sheep.livejournal.com
Wow. Interesting, smart, clear, and... the last paragraph is LOVE, dear. Such a beautiful thought. Optimism. Yeah. *snuggles your paragraph*

I hope you get a very positive response to this, because I think you deserve it. Not only because it's, IMHO, very good, but because, just by seeing the other thread, you must have put a huge amount of work into this.

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Date: 2005-12-14 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crownglass39.livejournal.com
Beautiful, well thought out essay here. Thanks for posting this.
I've read many of the articles and books mentioned here. When I first started reading slash, what seems like eons ago, I was compelled to figure out exactly why I found it so engrossing and...well...hot.

In my opinion, the best part about slash fiction (that I read anyway) is the freedom of expression that is allowed the characters. The removal of certain societal constraints and restrictions that are placed on more "traditional" characters. Ie, a man isn't nurturing or caring, which can be blatently untrue.

Love this discussion.

On another note, can I join your friend list?

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Date: 2005-12-14 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airinshaw.livejournal.com
Thankyou - I really enjoyed reading that! I recently had a mini-personal-meta on the very same subject as it's something that interests me greatly (it was my desire to see Brokeback Mountain so badly that got me wondering!)

Well written, clear with your language...I'm not an essay-genius (I'm a scientist at heart - writing essays makes me cry) but in this non-professionals opinion you kicked ass. :D

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Date: 2005-12-14 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iwouldstay.livejournal.com
This is very interesting, although as a male slasher (even if not very prolific) I'm vaguely disturbed by the assertion that it is only women who are involved. Then again, I suppose I don't exactly count as your stereotypical male in the first place...

It's not why I came here, but I have a similar paper to write at the moment so this has been a good read in terms of what I might look at myself. My paper is on fanfiction as a whole, though, and it's explicitly autoethnographic, which means that I get to waffle about myself a lot. :)

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Date: 2005-12-16 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cross-stitchery.livejournal.com
hey there :) an interesting essay, and i wish i'd seen your LJ before so i could have added this comment for you to consider.

a long time slasher who i met some years ago told me her theory that slashers are 'born, not made' in much the same way as gays/lesbians (if you subscribe to the nature over nurture theory). at first i didn't agree with her, but on thinking it over later, i realised that from an early age - long before i had *any* understanding about sex, let alone homosexuality - i was fixated on male/male relationships. i can remember trying to get my friends (both male and female) to act out adventures under my direction. not very successfully, i might add :P for years i simply assumed it was because i was a stereotypical 'tomboy', and in fact it wasn't until well into my 30's that i came across slash and immediately embraced the concept. however, after thinking about my friend's theory for a while, i came to the conclusion that she was right. at least in my case.

anyhow, make of it what you will. i'm not sure how this would fit into the kind of essay you were writing anyway.

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Date: 2005-12-22 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svilleficrecs.livejournal.com
huge rutting jizz-drenched scrum[s]

I think I found the new name for my friends list page. Awesome.

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Date: 2008-01-19 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batboy126.livejournal.com
This essay did a good job of explaining why straight women like 'slash' fiction. I'd like to see one that explains why it bugs the hell out of gay men. 'Some of my best friends' (if you'll excuse the expression) are women who write M/M fiction, but I don't think I'll ever get completely used to the idea.

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