SGA: Misbegotten thoughts and OH NOES
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trinityofoneAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Okay, I just had to get that out of my system. This episode freaked me, man. And I know that on some level it was supposed to, but this much? We'll see where they take it.
Anyway. Poor Michael. Giving him "the cure" again without his approval was so, SO not cool. I mean, I recognize that they couldn't just let him out into the world—you can't let a serial killer go free, or perhaps more accurately, you can't release a great white shark into an ocean of seals and expect everything to be peachy. Michael was going to need to eat, and that was going to be a problem if he didn't decide, on his own, to take the retrovirus. So what they should have done was have somebody try to persuade him. I betcha Teyla could have done it. But you don't, DON'T do something like that to one of your allies, ESPECIALLY when the cure is impermanent and you're poised and ready with a nuclear bomb. That's just wrong.
Also, my Michael fic is jossed all to hell now, fuckity.
John really freaked me out in this episode. He was in full-on robot mode, and it was SCARY. When we saw him on the planet and on the hive ship, he really was machine-like, and even when he got worked up talking to Woolsey (just imagine how he would be if he were forced to have a session with Heightmeyer) he just seemed...it was really weird, okay? I mean, Elizabeth seemed less stiff and more companionable in that scene, but it was like she was flirting with a brick wall. (For the record, I liked her a lot in that scene, and I don't mean flirting in a bad way—just the kind of teasing everybody does with members of the opposite (or same, depending) sex. She seemed relaxed and friendly; John's lack of reaction was...did I mention weird?)
I know that John internalizes more than pretty much everyone else on the show, but man: he is either really, REALLY conflicted right now, and is burying it; or he's not conflicted at all, Mr. Replicant Man, and either way it freaks me out.
(BTW, I loved the Blade Runner reference in SG-1 when Vala was preparing for her psych exam. It was a great joke, but the SGA episode made it seem like NOT A COINCIDENCE, YIKES!)
I liked Ronon a lot in this, just because he seemed steady and consistent, and for whatever reason, that's comforting. You don't get the impression that, like Carson, he used to have empathy and now has less. And jeeze, Carson! If you don't like what's going on, speak up for yourself! Also, what exactly did Michael do to him? Did he get Carson to spill about the bomb with just the threat of torture, or was something actually done? Way to be frustratingly vague, show.
I also liked, as always, that Rodney was the dissenting moral voice, because it's a role he always looks so uncomfortable in—he never thought that he'd be the one in this position, being (or at least attempting to be) a better person than those around him. Not that it really matters, because he always caves to the others (to JOHN). God, if they really were sleeping together, there would be so much tension right now. It would not be good: I imagine John would be desperately trying to feel something when he was with Rodney, but Rodney would be distant and withdrawn, and they wouldn't talk to each other, they'd just keep going, feeling miserable, or slowly drift apart... I want to write this story, but not until someone tells me how to give it a happy ending.
Speaking of endings...WTF, Woolsey? What did you see that could POSSIBLY have convinced you that Elizabeth was making good leadership decisions in this episode? I'm not saying that I want her replaced; I'm saying that TPTB are clearly OUT OF THEIR MINDS if they think this is good leadership. To me, it looked like Woolsey saw a lot of evidence of poor decisions and good people in way over their heads and digging themselves deeper, and then decided to IGNORE all of that because he just likes Elizabeth, darn it! And we're supposed to think this is a good thing? ARE WE? Please tell me, because I am clearly confused.
Which brings me to one last, amusing thing: when Woolsey came out on the balcony to talk to Caldwell, he was eating an orange. How fucked up is it that I immediately thought, "Orange of EVOL, OH NOES!" Because Rodney is allergic, citrus has come to have a symbolic meaning of corruption and nastiness. (Never mind that I just ate an orange this morning for breakfast.)
And one last question: is anyone else confused about how the SGA/SG-1 timelines are lining up? When did Woolsey go to Atlantis, for example, and when did he mess with Vala's head? Was Elizabeth still at the SGC when some of that Vala stuff was going on? I'm confused!
Okay, I just had to get that out of my system. This episode freaked me, man. And I know that on some level it was supposed to, but this much? We'll see where they take it.
Anyway. Poor Michael. Giving him "the cure" again without his approval was so, SO not cool. I mean, I recognize that they couldn't just let him out into the world—you can't let a serial killer go free, or perhaps more accurately, you can't release a great white shark into an ocean of seals and expect everything to be peachy. Michael was going to need to eat, and that was going to be a problem if he didn't decide, on his own, to take the retrovirus. So what they should have done was have somebody try to persuade him. I betcha Teyla could have done it. But you don't, DON'T do something like that to one of your allies, ESPECIALLY when the cure is impermanent and you're poised and ready with a nuclear bomb. That's just wrong.
Also, my Michael fic is jossed all to hell now, fuckity.
John really freaked me out in this episode. He was in full-on robot mode, and it was SCARY. When we saw him on the planet and on the hive ship, he really was machine-like, and even when he got worked up talking to Woolsey (just imagine how he would be if he were forced to have a session with Heightmeyer) he just seemed...it was really weird, okay? I mean, Elizabeth seemed less stiff and more companionable in that scene, but it was like she was flirting with a brick wall. (For the record, I liked her a lot in that scene, and I don't mean flirting in a bad way—just the kind of teasing everybody does with members of the opposite (or same, depending) sex. She seemed relaxed and friendly; John's lack of reaction was...did I mention weird?)
I know that John internalizes more than pretty much everyone else on the show, but man: he is either really, REALLY conflicted right now, and is burying it; or he's not conflicted at all, Mr. Replicant Man, and either way it freaks me out.
(BTW, I loved the Blade Runner reference in SG-1 when Vala was preparing for her psych exam. It was a great joke, but the SGA episode made it seem like NOT A COINCIDENCE, YIKES!)
I liked Ronon a lot in this, just because he seemed steady and consistent, and for whatever reason, that's comforting. You don't get the impression that, like Carson, he used to have empathy and now has less. And jeeze, Carson! If you don't like what's going on, speak up for yourself! Also, what exactly did Michael do to him? Did he get Carson to spill about the bomb with just the threat of torture, or was something actually done? Way to be frustratingly vague, show.
I also liked, as always, that Rodney was the dissenting moral voice, because it's a role he always looks so uncomfortable in—he never thought that he'd be the one in this position, being (or at least attempting to be) a better person than those around him. Not that it really matters, because he always caves to the others (to JOHN). God, if they really were sleeping together, there would be so much tension right now. It would not be good: I imagine John would be desperately trying to feel something when he was with Rodney, but Rodney would be distant and withdrawn, and they wouldn't talk to each other, they'd just keep going, feeling miserable, or slowly drift apart... I want to write this story, but not until someone tells me how to give it a happy ending.
Speaking of endings...WTF, Woolsey? What did you see that could POSSIBLY have convinced you that Elizabeth was making good leadership decisions in this episode? I'm not saying that I want her replaced; I'm saying that TPTB are clearly OUT OF THEIR MINDS if they think this is good leadership. To me, it looked like Woolsey saw a lot of evidence of poor decisions and good people in way over their heads and digging themselves deeper, and then decided to IGNORE all of that because he just likes Elizabeth, darn it! And we're supposed to think this is a good thing? ARE WE? Please tell me, because I am clearly confused.
Which brings me to one last, amusing thing: when Woolsey came out on the balcony to talk to Caldwell, he was eating an orange. How fucked up is it that I immediately thought, "Orange of EVOL, OH NOES!" Because Rodney is allergic, citrus has come to have a symbolic meaning of corruption and nastiness. (Never mind that I just ate an orange this morning for breakfast.)
And one last question: is anyone else confused about how the SGA/SG-1 timelines are lining up? When did Woolsey go to Atlantis, for example, and when did he mess with Vala's head? Was Elizabeth still at the SGC when some of that Vala stuff was going on? I'm confused!
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Date: 2006-07-22 05:52 pm (UTC)Am about to voice an unpopular opinion, heads up:
I really fucking hate people jumping to Carson!Torture.
*ducks*
See, I'm thinking back to Rising and Sumner, who got the wonky Wraith Queen voice in his head and he split the big Earth secret. And he's a much tougher man than Carson (skittish Scot MD < hardened military man, sorry).
Carson obviously wasn't aged after his time with Michael, so I'm thinking Michael just did the weird psychic control thingy Wraith can do and got him to talk.
Why are we assuming he needed torture to get Carson to talk when the Rising Wraith lady got it after such little psychic pressing? *tears at hair*
Then again, this might be me hating the fanon torture cliche and the crappy H/C fics. It's entirely possible.
See, this is why the TPTB needs to give us canon info on Wraith abilities. This is really bloody annoying, all the guessing.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-22 06:06 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-22 06:13 pm (UTC)I'm curious if Carson remembers telling Michael about the bomb, because he didn't say anything after they rescued him to warn Sheppard and the others, although I'm a little fuzzy on how much he was aware of what they were attempting at that point.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-22 06:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-24 03:15 am (UTC)I think it's entirely possible that Michael was setting up nasty surprises in Carson's mind to give some payback to the Atlanteans. Like, people should be on the lookout for symptoms like excitability, excess energy, and suddenly waking up with exoskeletons.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-24 05:11 pm (UTC)carson
Date: 2006-07-25 02:16 am (UTC)Well, I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.
Re: carson
Date: 2006-07-25 02:17 am (UTC)And one day I will learn to sign into LJ for these random posts.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-22 06:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-22 06:25 pm (UTC)If Carson needs comfort for anything, it's for his poor, stomped on morals!
(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-22 06:30 pm (UTC)Hide the awesome secondary characters, then. A depressed Gero is a murderous Gero.(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-23 05:30 am (UTC)Still...
CHUCK! RUN FOR THE
MAINLANDHILLS!(no subject)
Date: 2006-07-23 02:56 pm (UTC)