Alien Sex

Jan. 12th, 2007 11:50 am
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So, I've been watching a little Farscape, mostly because [livejournal.com profile] siriaeve MADE me (or, all right, suggested that I should). There are two things that I have concluded:

1. Aeryn wins at awesome.
2. I wish the aliens on SGA were, well, more alien. Because this would lead to more stories with bizarre alien sex.

I am deeply, deeply disappointed that we don't have more of these. I mean, sure, there's some tentacle fic, but personally I could do with a lot more stories where the people of Pegasus do not have quite so compatible physiologies. This is not something that the Stargate universe seems compelled to explore—which is why we should explore it! With porn.

I would love to see stories where, say, Ronon or Teyla have equipment, or even just practices, that are not what our Earthers expect. Or, stories where what our boys (or girls) are packing is surprising or horrifying to the people of Pegasus. Or...and here I have to trace this back to Farscape and the episode that pushed all this muck to the forefront of my brain. Anyway, in this episode, 'The Flax,' they all encounter this species they aren't particularly familiar with—this scavenger guy who they kind of coerce into helping them out. And blah blah plot, he does, and then as D'Argo is leaving, scavenger dude suddenly hits on him. He reveals that he is actually the female of his species. So. I want the fics where Ronon is female of his species or Teyla the male of hers. C'mon! You know you do, too!

I would also love more "John-or-Rodney-or-whoever-is-actually-an-alien" stories, à la [livejournal.com profile] eliade's fabulous An Aesthetic Solitary Thing. *delighted shiver*

So...would anyone else be interested in a fic challenge of this sort, or am I just being a kinky bitch? And if you are interested, how would you like to see it run? Casual/structured, flashfic quick or with a longer lead time? Brainstorm with me! Or I may have to satisfy my needs by rushing off and writing the tender story of Ronon and his alien vagina.*

*I think I have discovered my new favorite threat. Imagine, at work: "Well, BossMan, if you can't make up your mind about these captions, I'll just have to rush off and write the tender story of Ronon's alien vagina!" BossMan: *cowers in fear* *acquiesces to my every whim*

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
I totally want more John-is-an-alien fic!

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
More? Are you implying that there already is some? I mean, other than John-is-an-Ancient fic. (Not that I would object to more of that, too!)

*is probably forgetting something really obvious*

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:06 pm (UTC)
wychwood: Rodney has lists of the ways you are wrong (SGA - Rodney list of wrong)
From: [personal profile] wychwood
Farscape is, indeed, awesome that way. The problem with the SG universe is that we're told that everyone evolved from the meddling of the Ancients, right? So they're all derived from definitely humanoid stock (and we'll just handwave all biology ever because SG biology is total nonsense), and therefore unlikely to be sekritly very different from humans.

Which is not to stop you writing fic about it! But it's like the hypothetical language barrier - you'd have to ignore canon to play with it.

PS On B5 there is a race of aliens who look and behave a lot like humans, until it is revealed that they have genitalia (and internal structures) totally unlike ours *g*. There's actually (technically) at least one scene of full-frontal male nudity on the show, but it doesn't count because it's alien nudity.

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
The Ancients meddled, yeah, but who's to say they always used the same design? Or that after the initial meddling, the process of evolution didn't go differently on different worlds?

I actually think that, like the language thing, there's so little canon that you can basically dream up whatever wacky shit you want.

it doesn't count because it's alien nudity.

Awesome! That's like on BtVS where Spike could say "bugger" as much as he wanted, and it didn't count because it was British swearing. Well, like that only nakeder.

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etben.livejournal.com
I would be on that challenge like the white on the rice, dear. And, I mean, it actually makes a remarkable amount of sense - can't you just see the Ancients monkeying around with biology and gender just to see what happened?

Plus, genderfucky porn is always a plus.

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Please always justify my insanity. =)

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inthekeyofd.livejournal.com
How great is Farscape, Oh John, Aeryn, D'Argo, but Rygel still cracks me the hell up!!

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:40 pm (UTC)
siria: (farscape - john & aeryn close)
From: [personal profile] siria
Oh, you lie to save my reputation. I totally pinned you down on the floor in your living room until you agreed to watch it.

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
*sniffs* Yes, it's true. She sat on me until I cried.

*shame*

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Date: 2007-01-12 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chinawolf.livejournal.com
This is exactly where Stargate completely loses and Farscape totally wins. Farscape might be too insane for some people in stretches, but it's so alien! And sexy, of course. I still miss Crichton. :((

I think a shorter challenge - a month or so - would get people writing more; if there's too much time, people might forget about wanting to write for it. Then again, people are starting to go into a frenzy about 14 Valentines, so maybe something that ends end of Feb/March would be wiser?

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I think something super informal might do the trick. I'm just kind of sucky at setting these things up.

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisissirius.livejournal.com
Also. This challenge would be made of so much awesome!

I can totally see Teyla as being the male of her species and maybe she's in a relationship with someone and John's all 'So, when are you going to have the babiez?' and she's all 'what are you talking about? I don't have the babiez' and John and Rodney are like 'O.o' and she confesses that it's the male Athosians who do the whole child-bearing things because they're the female of the species, so to speak :P

*sniggers*

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
This would put an interesting new spin on Halling and Jinto, methinks.

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluebrocade.livejournal.com
I would be interested! Especially if Ronon has a vagina. O.o

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
I'm getting more and more tempted to actually just go ahead and write that...

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:42 pm (UTC)
ext_108: Jules from Psych saying "You guys are thinking about cupcakes, aren't you?" (Default)
From: [identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com


[I apologize in advance for this comment which is totally no fun and not in the spirit of awesome crackalicious porn.]


See, I love the idea of alien!John, and I loved Anna's Alien!Rodney story, but weirdly, I just have this reflexive "nooo!!!!" feeling as regards Ronon and Teyla. I don't know why, it's just... I mean... they're alien and "other" already, so making up stuff about how they're weird sexually just feels kind of... dehumanizing? Like the old rumors about sideways vaginas and how black men have huge cocks and stuff. "Well, they're not like us, so they must be BARELY-HUMAN FREAKS!" ... I mean, do you see where I'm coming from? Ronon and Teyla aren't another species, they're *human*. I feel weird about stories that try to make them not human. ^_^

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Date: 2007-01-12 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
No, I totally know what you mean: the tone could easily go totally wrong. It would have to be done in such a way that all the Pegasus Galaxy people are like, "Nooooo, this is normal; you're the freaks." Or, say, it could turn out that the Ancients seeded all the planets with people who were like them, and then it's on Earth that evolution went wonky.

But it's very annoying that the Stargate TPTB have their little trend of making all their main alien characters not white, which then adds real issues to what I'd like to have be, "alien sex is kinky and fun, let's have more alien sex." But you're right, since those issues are there, they can't not be dealt with.

Though sometimes I am shallow and would like to ignore them for the sake of the porn.

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Date: 2007-01-12 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com
If you want, we can do an "alien" sex challenge at sga_flashfic that works with some of these criteria! You make the rulz, I post the challenge!

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Date: 2007-01-12 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityofone.livejournal.com
Oooh! I like this suggestion! It involves NEXT TO NO WORK ON MY PART. *g*

Um, can I think for a bit about how I want to phrase it and get back to you?

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Date: 2007-01-12 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whimsicalwhims.livejournal.com
Hee! I, too, am currently watching Farscape (for the first time), and The Flax was the episode I watched last night.

(And you know, I think that D'Argo was actually considering it for a moment...)

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Date: 2007-01-13 12:04 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (ST:TOS Spock Naughty naughty)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
My first slash paringing was Kirk/Spock, so bring on the alien, culture-clash sex. Mmmm.

Oh, would crossovers be allowed? Because then you could borrow alien characters from other fandoms, which could be fun. Or would this be strictly SG-verse only?

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Date: 2007-01-13 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seratonation.livejournal.com
I read somewhere that there is a species of fish that are all male except the leader who is female, and when she dies, one if the males becomes female, to lead. I really want to see this applied to Athosians. Lol, Teyla was born male. *shakes head*

Heh not being kinky at all. (but I'm afraid of the story of Ronon and his alien vagina.

Although yes I would love to see any they-are-not-human (or at least Earth-like). I think I'd like to see it any way...? casual would be nice like a dropped line that could get everyone to go 'Huh?', but structured means there is more plot and I like plot, flshfic could be funny but with a long lead time you could take it apart and analyze it more... (Sorry I'm not being not being helpful at all)
*sorry double post, unending tag*

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Date: 2007-01-13 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delurker.livejournal.com
...and now I want an AU where Elizabeth leaves atlantis for some reason for a significant period of time, and John and Rodney turn into girls. (Or! To make it an even more insane AU, have Sumner still alive, and turn into a girl. Or have the inhabitants of the Pegasus galaxy surprised he is not a girl. Argh, the crack is taking over!)

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Date: 2007-01-13 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pqueen.livejournal.com
Heehee. I loved that episode. (I'm currently watching season 2 of Farscape.)

Ronon as a female. *Snorfle*

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Date: 2007-01-13 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonofzeal.livejournal.com
I can imagine the sleezy bar conversations that could result from something like that.

"See that chick with the green hair?"
"No way man!"
"Nah, not her, but one of her species. They're crazy."
"Yeah?"
"Yeah. Got two tounges."
"Bullshit. I've eaten lunch with those greenies. I've seen it; they've only got one tounge."
"In their mouth anyway."

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Date: 2007-01-13 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekynicist.livejournal.com
This is not something that the Stargate universe seems compelled to explore

I, too, have felt the lack of alien-aliens in the Stargate universe. But rather than a lack of imagination on the part of the writers or anything like that (although, let's face it, there are times when they do seem to suffer from it, and fandom gives one collective sigh of, "Why?"), I've always just seen the point of the Stargate 'verse, at least on SG-1, as kind of exploring the similarities between the alien cultures and Earth's. After all, on SG-1, most of the aliens we encounter are human.

You're right, though, SGA is a different story. They're in another galaxy. I want some freaky cultural practices far beyond the expedition's ken. I want to see some bizarre extra limbs or a third eye or secret genital-tentacles or something.

Anyway, if you did a challenge like that, I'd definitely sign up. Your comment about Teyla being the male of her species made the image of that "Gender and Class in the Eastern Bloc" class I took a year ago smack me in the face, and now there's inspiration.

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Date: 2007-01-15 10:03 pm (UTC)
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Creepy

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